On John Stewart, Lincoln's election was rigged, too?

[babylonsister]

:wow: But he won on personality. ;) Now I want to read this guy's book.

[provis99]

1. Lincoln's a guy I want to have a beer with

He's got my vote!

[evlbstrd]

2. Welcome to America.

When did you get here?

[babylonsister]

3. Pipe down.

So my history sucks, 'k? :P

[evlbstrd]

5. 's ok.

The game has been rigged from the beginning.

[babylonsister]

6. I guess! Sigh. "Much ado about nothing we can do anything about"? nt

[evlbstrd]

8. "The first thing we do,

let's kill all the lawyers."

Twas ever thus.

[babylonsister]

10. Awww, such simple solutions. LOL! nt

[evlbstrd]

11. Tedious, I would think.

And very messy.

[babylonsister]

12. That would all depend on the method. But yes,

tedious, because there's so many of 'em.

OK, I'm no where near a lawyer, I don't even sleep or live next to one.

[lonestarnot]

4. don't get to see until tomorrow.

[napi21]

7. That was a GRAT guest! See, Jon really DOES have real information

on his show...once in a while!

[babylonsister]

9. Yes, the whole segment makes me want to read a biography for the

first time in awhile.

[ConsAreLiars]

13. The Senate race he lost was rigged.

He won the popular vote but the "electoral college" system in effect was based on legislative districts and "rigged" to favor the pro-slavery regions.

Good guest and an interesting bit of history. He said that curiosity about Bryant after the election and reading the debates made Lincoln a national figure and thus the presidential campaign possible. I wish I had been taught history the way he presented it.

[napi21]

14. Don't we all wish that! All I remember was having to memorize dates

and names. I forced myself to remember enough to pass the dam test, and then I forgot almost all of it!

[ConsAreLiars]

17. Not just memorizing dates eith zero meaning,

but by that method of "instruction" being actively denied not only a realistic understanding of our history but deprived us of any inclination to look any further. At least until real subsequent history said to pay a bit more attention. Any "history" class without Zinn's book is deception.

[TahitiNut]

15. Until the 17th Amendment (in 1913), Senators were not elected by popular vote.

The Constitution stated "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof, for six years;"

[babylonsister]

16. That was brought up tonight; the legislature overwhelmed/punked/pwned

Lincoln, but he won further (N)east. I really need a biography.

[ConsAreLiars]

18. Thanks, I wasn't clear if the Legislature voted directly or

if the votes were just tallied by district. The "rigging" was was in the favorable weighting of the slavery friendly regions. Standard gerrymandering stuff, it seems.