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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:01 PM
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Would you purchase refurbished electronics?
As I price computers and MP3 players I notice there are a lot of refurbished products on the market that are deeply discounted. But how is the quality? Is there a greater risk of product failure in refurbished products?

I don't work retail, so I am hesitant to put my hard earned dollars in something that has already let someone else down. What is the recommendation among you GD experts?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:05 PM
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1. I've purchased several refurbished items (digital camera, iPods)
and haven't had problems. I think a lot of this stuff is just buyer's remorse, not defective merchandise. I was told to return an iPod as defective, had the same installation problem with the next one and figured out how to work around the problem myself. The one I returned was, I am sure, perfectly good.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:06 PM
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2. If It's Refurbed And Warranteed By The Manufacturer
And it's a deep discount, I'd do it. These are often returns that get cleaned up.

Otherwise, not.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:07 PM
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3. I might, depending. I'd go refurbished from Apple because I think they have high
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 10:16 PM by mondo joe
quality standards, for example.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:07 PM
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4. I've purchased refurbished electronics and appliances for several
years now, and I've never had any problems. I always make sure the listing says "factory refurbished" though. I think the only thing in my house that ISN't refurbished is my TV, and that's only because I'm such an impatient person, and when my TV was fried by lightening, I wasn't willing to wait for a refurbished one to be shipped, so I went to Best Buy and bought a new one.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:08 PM
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5. Many items have just cosmetic defects and have been refurbished.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:08 PM
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6. I think refurbished goods for the most part has a good track record as such
the ones I've noticed come with the same warranty as new. I know people who go looking for the refurbished products everytime and they seem to be happy with them. Hell if you can save a bundle of cash I say why not. I purchased a refurbished belt sander and saved myself close to a c note and I couldn't tell it from new when I first got it.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:09 PM
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7. I've bought plenty of factory refurbished. No problems.
If they come with a factory warranty, and it is a good name brand, I go for it. I've never had any problems.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:11 PM
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8. Like the first reply said, much of that stuff was fine the first time.
I used to do RTV for a big electronics chain, and I know we sent back a lot of perfectly good stuff either because it was returned defective and was only PLBKAC, because somebody claimed something was defective rather than admit they changed their mind, or because we needed to get it out of the store to make room for other stuff.

A lot of the bigger buyers write into their contracts that they can RTV stuff for full credit for any or no reason.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:15 PM
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9. I've had no problems with refurbisheds
most recentlya GPS unit that has no problems. The best thing, as someone mentioned above, is the factory warranty is good.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:18 PM
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10. I just purchased a refurbished DVD/VCR unit
that had the features i wanted, the features that are being discontinued in the newer models.
Paid about 1/2 what it cost new, came w/ the same year warranty as the original.

no complaints.
dp
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:22 PM
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11. I bought a refurbished computer from manufacturer
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 10:23 PM by MissWaverly
it had a subprogram under the Windows shell, the guy who had it before surfed the internet for porn, burnt it to CDs and sold them,
so if anyone came by it had the standard windows shell but every time I went on the net, there were porn files to be downloaded,
I did everything to scrub the machine and it did not work, I finally had to junk the machine. It was not worth it, you would be better buying from someone you know than taking a risk like that. I am sure that folks will say that this is impossible, I just know that it happened to me.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:36 AM
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25. Fdisk, format, install.,
No need to "junk" a computer over software.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:07 AM
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26. I've reformated and reloaded xp on this machine several times now
I'm always playing with my install, removing shit and adding others ;-)
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:33 PM
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30. I reformatted hard drive, it did not help
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 12:36 PM by MissWaverly
I am not saying that reformatting would not remove the windows based system, what was on this machine was built outside the windows
format and it did not help. Now, I did buy a refurbished Brother CS6000i sewimg machine that I am really happy with, the reason I
think that women return them is that the tension should remain at 0 for most stitching becuz computer chip handles that, most women
my age have had a tension setting of 3 beat into their brains.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:42 PM
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31. Fdisking pior to formatting is critical.
When you delete a partition it permanently and irretrievably deletes the FAT, and thus eliminates any viruses or spyware that may have existed. Simply reformatting does not have the same "clean slate" benefit.
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idovoodoo Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:24 PM
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12. Absolutely...do it all the time. They're usually superior to new.
...
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:29 PM
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13. I buy refurbished Apple products all the time, they come with a standard 1 year warranty
and you can upgrade their refurbished computers to a 3 year warranty. If they trust their refurbished products enough to give those kinds of Warranties I think they have to be pretty good.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:36 PM
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14. You've sold me
This weekend my daughter has an IMac on loan from her school so she can complete a major project. After seeing that thing in action I am beginning to price IMacs and the refurbished ones caught my eye.

Too bad I did not pose this question before I bought my MP3 player.
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:21 PM
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15. I have two refurbished ibook G4's that I have had for almost 3 years never had a problem with
either of them. I am about to buy a iMac refurb also you won't be sorry I love Macs.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:22 PM
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16. Yep
buy refurb all the time.

Is that code39 or 128b?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:24 PM
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17. Sansa MP3 player; RCA wireless speakers to name a couple.
No problem.

Usually, these refurbs are simply new stuff that was tried once and returned. It's highly likely that nothing was wrong with the product.
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:47 PM
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18. two kinds of refurbished
likely both reliable.

in the factory, some percentage get tested thoroughly, others get a more cursory inspection. items that don't pass one or the other inspection typically are cycled to the rework table then retested and ok's by the QC staff.

when consumers return failed product the rework table gets to work and brings the thing back to performance standard.

i would heed the advice to ensure you get the original factory warranty. i advocate buying the insurance plan for higher ticket items. case in point, this powerbook i'm typing on. it shared a glass of cabernet one evening with me. the apple warranty replaced the keyboard and mouse pad at no charge beyond the insurance i'd purchased from apple.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:50 PM
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19. With *your* money I would, but not with my own.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:51 PM
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20. the laptop I am now using to type these words...
was refurbished/recycled. I bought it online after some research into what I could afford. So I am the proud owner of a used ThinkPad T30, happily running Kubuntu Linux.
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FedoraLV Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:36 AM
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21. My Computer Is
Mind, it needed a new motherboard and hard drive before worked quite right: a warranty/repair plan/good return policy may be in order.

(I bought it off the manufacturers' website; they were also the one who fixed it.)

-FedoraLV


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:38 AM
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22. I have purchased refurbished products from a coffee maker to a computer and have had
knock on wood, no problems! :)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:45 AM
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23. My macbook was a floor model
I have bought more than one refurbished computer since I started buying years ago, decades, I am dating myself

Just do your research, and MAKE SURE they come with a factory guarantee, like my macbook

Oh and I'd say I have saved thousands by now
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:59 AM
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24. Anything but a television
An LCD TV is too expensive. Many times a whole series that is blown out has design problems.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:09 AM
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27. I'm on a refurbished Toshiba Laptop now....
It's great.........no problems so far and it's almost a year since I bought it. It's a hell of a lot better than the piece of shit Dell I had brand new.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:13 AM
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28. I'm on a refurbished Dell at the moment: Saved about $1/3
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:20 AM
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29. I think they are generally a good deal...
.. most "refurbished" merchandise is, I believe, simply returns. Once the packaging is opened, it has to be checked and repackaged.

A manufacturer can't really repair most electronic devices (except for the simplest problems) cost effectively. But they cannot repackage returns and sell them as new, hence the "refurbished".

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