So how are you going to feel when the House Ok's the Telco Immunity Bill?

[sellitman]

Looks like they are waffling already. At least that what Rep. Silvestre Reyes is saying.

Me ...... going to be madder than a hornet and as close as I have ever been to walking away from voting and politics all together.

, D-Texas, said he was open to that possibility after receiving documents from the Bush administration and speaking to the companies about the industry's role in the government spy program.

:banghead:

"We are talking to the representatives from the communications companies because if we're going to give them blanket immunity, we want to know and we want to understand what it is that we're giving immunity for," he said. "I have an open mind about that."

:banghead:

http://tinyurl.com/2dvj42

[scarletwoman]

1. Unsurprised. (nt)

[gerrilea]

2. Just like shit, it is crazy and we have to get rid of all of them in washington

they are destroying what's left of this country...we will never be free again...:hide:

[Preston120]

24. When do we go from loyal opposition to Sedition?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. Water is wet. Democrats cave....as usual. *Shrug*

Politics as usual.

[sellitman]

5. Isn't this cave in worse than most?

I feel it is.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. I'm getting pretty thick skinned about politicians acting like politicians.

Which is what I "trust" them to do.

But, they vote, I vote...based on their votes. And, they can "trust" me to do so.

[rwheeler31]

4. Ugly

[OnyxCollie]

6. Used, abused, mistreated, and lied to. nt

[unkachuck]

7. "So how are you going to feel..."

....like I feel right now....

....money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money....

[ixion]

9. the same way I've felt everyday for the last 25 years: like sh*t...

pissed as hell at what has been done to our once great republic.

[snot]

10. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!

this makes me really mad. We have kicked our reps into filibustering this thing three times. They are not getting the message. What does it take. It's unacceptable, we cannot accept it.

[sellitman]

15. I feel the same way.

So mad my blood is boiling.

[Timefortruth]

11. No lube, no kiss good night,

no consent, date rape.

[Dr.Phool]

12. It feels like Stockholm Syndrome

[spotbird]

13. Recommend this thread.

They need to see it when they get up tomorrow.

[Ioo]

14. I expect the Democrats to cave in to Bush... they fail us

Oh well

[sanjiadem]

16. More than a little

pissed ... I am so sick of folks acting like they're representing us when they don't have a clue about who the real 'us' is. Most of us aren't receiving golden parachutes after committing crimes -- most of us aren't buying our second or third homes -- most of us aren't getting rich because politicians rely on our contributions.

I don't trust many, I trusted Gore and Edwards.

At this point, I don't even think it matters if I vote at all.

[sellitman]

17. Isn't helping the criminal get away a crime in itself?

Someone explain to me the difference?

[AdHocSolver]

20. It is called being an accessory after the fact. n/t

[sanjiadem]

30. Point of clarification

I've phoned Washington from action call lists, I've written letters, signed petitions, donated and emailed .... white collar and political crime goes unpunished all the time.

Just today, riding home, I hear on NPR about how Fanny Mae was no longer going to allow the mortgage brokers who inflated appraisals to make bigger commissions to do that any more. Independent appraisers must be used (guess they never heard of kickbacks). And, as usual, the damage has already been done. These brokers made tens of thousands of dollars on each transaction, and, I guarantee, NOT ONE OF THEM will spend a day in jail (ok, maybe they'll send a scapegoat or two), but the people they ripped off will never be made whole and most of them will still reside in their McMansions, keep their jobs, health care, and retirement funds - while the people they scammed go under because their homes are not worth their loans.

[defendandprotect]

18. The same way I feel about the Dems who do nothing every day . . .!!!!

How about impeachment --- ?
How about holding the Repugs responsible for the damage they've done to the world, basically!!!

How about holding Bush responsible for criminal behavior ---

for "Signing Statements" which are illegal ---
and it is up to Congress to ensure that the legislation they pass is carried out with the
INTENT and SPIRIT with which it is passed ---

Signing Statements are a LOUD RAZZBERRY at the Congress --- which does nothing, does nothing,
does nothing!!!



Oh, yeah --- they still take money from coporations --- and lobbyists for corporations --- !!!

[Diane R]

19. Do they pay any attention at all to what their constituents want?!!

[sellitman]

21. They say they do then they waffle and spin.

Or they wimp out by not showing up.

[The Backlash Cometh]

22. I will feel violated. Being an American in the 21st Century is to feel

violated.

Has anyone thought to contact William Saffire to get more information about how he felt about it when they wiretapped him? And why did they?

[AdHocSolver]

23. Betrayed!

Most of the voters, even among Democrats, are sheeple. The same people who betray us again and again are reelected. The reason is that the voters do NOT understand either politics or economics. To most of them it is merely a popularity contest. This is true even for Democrats who are active party members.

Progressive party members have to elect progressives even at the lowest level who can work their way up to leadership. Many of the leaders are entrenched through "old boy" networks. They don't listen to the members. They merely dictate orders down the line. We have to elect true progressives at the district, county, and state levels, to replace the entrenched troglodytes within the Democratic party.

[mike_c]

25. betrayed, yet again....

eom

[jgraz]

26. I'm going to turn around and send $500 to Nancy Pelosi's primary challenger

http://www.usalone.com/on_the_table.php

[Norrin Radd]

27. Traitors.

[Eric J in MN]

28. It will give me a list of Democrats NOT to donate to.

People who are against civil liberties can fund the campaigns of the Democrats who vote for retroactive immunity, instead of me.

[orleans]

29. we should call up congress and say:

"KISS ME. BECAUSE I WANT TO BE KISSED WHEN I'M GETTING FUCKED"

[ThomWV]

31. Rage!