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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:09 AM
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Why are Finnish kids Smarter?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120425355065601997.html?mod=mostpop

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High-school students here rarely get more than a half-hour of homework a night. They have no school uniforms, no honor societies, no valedictorians, no tardy bells and no classes for the gifted. There is little standardized testing, few parents agonize over college and kids don't start school until age 7.

Yet by one international measure, Finnish teenagers are among the smartest in the world. They earned some of the top scores by 15-year-old students who were tested in 57 countries. American teens finished among the world's C students even as U.S. educators piled on more homework, standards and rules. Finnish youth, like their U.S. counterparts, also waste hours online. They dye their hair, love sarcasm and listen to rap and heavy metal. But by ninth grade they're way ahead in math, science and reading -- on track to keeping Finns among the world's most productive workers.


Finland's students are the brightest in the world, according to an international test. Teachers say extra playtime is one reason for the students' success. WSJ's Ellen Gamerman reports.
The Finns won attention with their performances in triennial tests sponsored by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a group funded by 30 countries that monitors social and economic trends. In the most recent test, which focused on science, Finland's students placed first in science and near the top in math and reading, according to results released late last year. An unofficial tally of Finland's combined scores puts it in first place overall, says Andreas Schleicher, who directs the OECD's test, known as the Programme for International Student Assessment, or PISA. The U.S. placed in the middle of the pack in math and science; its reading scores were tossed because of a glitch. About 400,000 students around the world answered multiple-choice questions and essays on the test that measured critical thinking and the application of knowledge. A typical subject: Discuss the artistic value of graffiti.

The academic prowess of Finland's students has lured educators from more than 50 countries in recent years to learn the country's secret, including an official from the U.S. Department of Education. What they find is simple but not easy: well-trained teachers and responsible children. Early on, kids do a lot without adults hovering. And teachers create lessons to fit their students. "We don't have oil or other riches. Knowledge is the thing Finnish people have," says Hannele Frantsi, a school principal

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As a parent of a school kid in Germany we are terrifed to move back to the States as our kid is starting late reading and has only taken tests with 5 questions max. She's getting a much different base for education - only goes for 4 hours through second grade and heavy emphasis on handwriting as opposed to reading. They also have a lot more extra activities that I understand are drastically reduced in the US - art, music, PE. And of course she has 2 hours of religion a week - I LOVE telling that to my repug relatives who call Germany Socialistic. They hate hearing how connected to religion these Euro countries are.

Oh - and the biggest adjustment we'll make upon returning - we walk to and from school. The last place we lived in the US this was impossible - no sidewalks on the main road leading to the school - only a drainage ditch - it was in New Orleans.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:17 AM
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1. A largely homogenous society
Plus a strong social net.

Those would be my two guesses.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:11 AM
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6. if you add to that their kids spend fewer hours in front of TV
you are exactly right. TV is the evil Satan when it comes to developing the ability to think critically. Now, I must be off; there is a Green Acres marathon on TVLAND
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:02 AM
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12. It's equality, not homogeneity. All schools are funded at same levels, not a lot
of social inequality, and, presto, Finland has the narrowest gap between best performing and worst performing students, and does best over all.

And I think the correlation between doing best overall, and not having a lot of inequality is something that a lot of people don't really appreciate.

"We all do better when we all do better" -- that was something John Edwards used to say.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:18 AM
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2. thanks for this -- K&R...
...and link sent to my youngest sons' school! (which, actually, is very "Finnish" in outlook!)

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:57 AM
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3. it's all the reindeer blubber
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:14 AM
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5. Good point...
One of the smartest people I have ever known is a Laplander.

She was raised in a nomadic family of reindeer herders North of the Circle, living in skin huts with eight siblings and her parents.

And she is also the most beautiful (by any measure) soul I have ever known.

Tom
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:13 AM
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4. So what place did the US come in?

It just says the US was among 'C students'

Thats average, so out of 57 we came in 28th in the world?

So what place did the US come in?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:12 AM
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7. No Lap Left Behind
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speedbird Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:39 AM
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8. shorter school day. n/t
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:49 AM
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9. Maybe Finnish society actually values education.
There is a HUGE anti-intellectual streak in American culture. One of the indispensable components to meaningful learning is that the learner must be willing to learn. All too often in American classrooms, that's not the case.

I will say that it's got to be easier to fit lessons to students when the culture is homogenous.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:53 AM
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10. Gosh, the Finns sound so HUMAN. Can I go live there, instead of
this robotic-ass place??
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:12 AM
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11. Reading this makes me queasy. I wish we had a system like
that. I say that on the day that my 2nd grade son will start his first 4 hours of testing for our state standardized tests. There will be alot more than 5 questions. The sample reading test they sent home was 32 pages long. We haven't been handed a sample math test, but that comes next week. What I've seen on line looks similar to the reading. There is also a writing component that they've been practicing since December. One of the prompts in a previous year was "Write a letter to your principal or teacher in support of recess." Second grade is a 'trial run' so to speak. In 3rd grade, if he fails any part, it means mandatory summer school.

Next year, when my future 10th grader gets takes the tests, they will determine what diploma she is eligible for upon graduation in 12th grade.

It is an "f'd" up system.
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CRF450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:56 PM
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14. I agree
I think they're trying to cram too much at a time into a kid's head these days. I know I had a hard time trying to keep up. Not to mention, like 2 hours worth of homework 4 days/week.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:29 AM
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13. my 19 YO son sent me this link-best graffiti artist-Banksy in the UK awesome work
this page has his outdoor work-incredible use of existing backgrounds

http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/horizontal_1.htm






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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 03:06 PM
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15. I think individualized teaching approaches are important
Also not rushing kids into formal education till they're ready; not spending valuable teaching time on testing and 'teaching to the test'.

And less poverty and better health than in most countries.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:04 AM
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16. You know what I heard from a teacher last night?
"I'll support NCLB when our Pres takes the 10th grade test and passes with a high 4 or better." Scale only goes to 5, 3 is average. Why it caught my attention was it was a teacher who was talking to our district superintendent. ;)
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 07:28 AM
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17. Maybe they're taught how to use a search function?
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