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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:14 AM
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New Yorker: The argument against home ownership

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23439843/


The argument against home ownership
What was a savings plan is now pushing some into indentured servitude


The Financial Page
By James Surowiecki

updated 7:54 a.m. ET March 3, 2008
Americans may disagree about nearly everything, but few contest the idea that owning your home is a good thing. Paeans to homeownership are a commonplace for American politicians, and, since the nineteen-thirties, public policy has been designed to make home buying cheaper and easier. Homeownership, the argument goes, has tremendous social benefits, stabilizing neighborhoods and making people more willing to invest in their communities. And it has economic benefits, too, serving as a forced-savings program that allows people to leverage their incomes and build wealth. Homeownership “provides financial security for families,” Mel Martinez, the former H.U.D. Secretary, has said, and it “generates economic strength that fuels the entire nation.”

That never seemed more true than in the years from 1994 to 2005, when the percentage of Americans who own homes rose by almost ten per cent, and the amount of wealth tied up in property soared. But our veneration of homeowning has blinded us to the fact that, along with the benefits, it has some very real costs — costs that only get bigger as the ranks of homeowners swell. The housing boom undoubtedly helped the economy’s growth rate and made lots of first-time home buyers happy. Unfortunately, it may also end up prolonging and deepening the current downturn.

In part, this is due to the nature of the boom, which was stoked by cheap credit and lax lending standards. Buying a home used to require a sizable down payment: in 1976, the average for a first-time buyer was eighteen per cent. By contrast, a National Association of Realtors study of first-time buyers between mid-2005 and mid-2006 found that almost half put down nothing at all, and that the median down payment was just two per cent. If you earn eighty thousand a year, no one will lend you four hundred thousand dollars to buy stocks, but plenty of people were willing to lend you that money to buy a house. As long as home prices were rising, all this leverage seemed like a good thing: it let people buy homes that they couldn’t otherwise afford, and maximized their return on investment. But, with home prices sinking — in the final quarter of 2007, they were down almost 9 percent from the year before—the downside has become clear: as many as fifteen million homeowners now owe more on their mortgages than their homes are worth. Homeownership isn’t building wealth for these people; it’s locking them into indentured servitude.

The problem was exacerbated by an explosion in home-equity loans, fuelled by our faith that house prices can only rise. According to a recent study by the Federal Reserve, homeowners took out more than six hundred billion dollars in home-equity loans between 2004 and 2005 alone — ten times as much as they had a decade earlier — and are spending much of it on personal consumption. That destroys the forced-savings aspect of homeownership, since people are using up their home equity instead of saving it for the future. And it means that many homeowners have to devote more and more of their income to paying off home-equity debt, contributing to the current slowdown.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:19 AM
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1. 20% here another 20k in upgrades in 2007.
I put up land for the first two I built. This home I put up 40k from the sale of my last....Yeah I rented a few times in college I'll not do that again.
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:23 AM
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3. If I lived in a reasonable housing market I would not rent.
But if I was still living in the SF Bay area, where you can often rent the exact same house for $1500 that would have a mortgage payment of over $3000, I would DEFINITELY rent.


It's really all about the market you're in.


Another couple of years of depreciation and who knows, California and Florida may actually become good places in which to buy again...
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:14 AM
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6. I said I would only rent again if I could make my payment by flushing
it down the toilet. If people know their limits, home ownership is the way to go.
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:27 AM
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7. Even if the payment on the house you "own" is double what it would be to rent a comparable house?
In many bubble markets in the US, that's the scenario...
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:39 AM
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8. The problem is people keep trading in their homes like they were used cars.
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:44 AM
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9. Not all of us are born with a house, and sometimes work forces a move...
not everyone who has to move is a flipper. The point is there are plenty of cases in which renting is by far the more sensible choice.


Obviously in a dirt-cheap housing market like Arkansas, that's not the case...
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:56 AM
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11. Fair point but I'm not in a buble market. In my city...
rent is outrageous. $850 for a safe two bedroom of good quality. My 1500 sq. ft. house in a good neighborhood costs me under $800 AND I get the interest deduction on my taxes.

Yes, in CA and other places it would possibly be different.
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:53 PM
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12. Lucky for you. A good 40% of the population live in bubble markets...
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 01:00 PM by El Pinko
...the people in other areas have NO IDEA what it's like. There are 1000 ft. 1950s fugly ranch houses going for $900K in Silicon Valley right now. The median income is $80K there, so a median house is about 10X median income. And yet, you could rent the same house for $1500-2000. So far, SiliValley has avoided the downturn in prices - other suburbs around the bay area are plummeting, but SF proper, Marin County and SiliValley are still insane.

Here's an example:



$800K for a 1000 sqft Piece of Shit in Cupertino

http://www.mls-2.com/houseDetail.jsp?mls=754350&housesearchbyMLS=Search

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:21 AM
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2. A question for anyone who has used a home equity loan to finance personal consumption:
Why?

Why would you take a loan out against your home to buy something that wasn't going to increase in value?

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:54 AM
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10. We paid two college tuitions,
home improvements and two cars. As I see it, it's my money, so I'm paying myself back :) Of course, the bank charges me a little interest, I can deduct that.

I think Equity lines are really a useful, if used wisely. Been using it for over 20 years!
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rolleitreks Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:26 AM
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4. I'll buy your house. n/t
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:45 AM
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5. 21st century debtors prison
what was old is new again
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