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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:10 PM
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Bushco: "Ordered it and approved it & then never came to the Agency's defense when it hit the fan"
Central Intelligence Anxiety
NEWS: How the Bush administration left the spooks to twist in the wind

By Laura Rozen

March/April 2008 Issue

This winter, as politicians fulminated over the destroyed tapes of the waterboarding of Al Qaeda member Abu Zubaydah, a former CIA operative told me that after 9/11 he was approached to take part in a special counterterrorism group authorized to use "enhanced techniques." He had "a moral problem with it," he told a superior, but he wanted to go after the bad guys; what should he do? "These enhanced techniques may make us feel good now, but one of these days they will leak," the superior told him. "They will hit the press, and there will be congressional investigations. And God forbid someone will go overboard and kill someone." So, the former operative turned down the job, "thank God."

After that, a division emerged between what a former senior Agency official described to me as the "SS crowd" and the "Wehrmacht crowd," the "hard edged" and the "smarter and better informed." He said, "People managed not to take assignments. There were senior people who would not go to meetings if they thought that extraordinary rendition or enhanced interrogation techniques were going to be discussed."

Sure enough, when public opinion finally shifted, the administration left the spooks to twist in the wind. "The Bush administration ordered it and approved it and then never came to the Agency's defense when it hit the fan," the former operative said. "The hypocrisy is breathtaking." That prompted a former CIA counterterrorism officer, John Kiriakou, to go on national television to point out that administration officials had been briefed in detail about the Zubaydah interrogation and others. For his trouble, Kiriakou now is reportedly the subject of an FBI investigation focused on whether he disclosed classified information.

What about Congress? "They have known for a long time that uses stress positions and hypothermia and waterboarding and sleep deprivation—and they haven't done anything about it," says Marty Lederman, a former Justice Department attorney who now teaches law at Georgetown University. "They don't disagree with it. And if they do disagree with it, what are they going to do about it? The default position is to have closed hearings, which is preposterous. The intelligence oversight committees are totally captured by the intelligence community."

http://motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/03/central-intelligence-anxiety.html
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:16 PM
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1. K&R
"when public opinion finally shifted" (on torture..as they aren't talking about the "war")

That's the talking point that suggest the public, as a whole, supported torture until they didn't

It's an excuse..well, the people were OK with torture until their opinion changed...so they share the blame too.

It's a bullshit talking point.




"They have known for a long time that uses stress positions and hypothermia and waterboarding and sleep deprivation—and they haven't done anything about it,"

No surprises there. War.Crime.Nation.







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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:36 PM
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4. With Democrats Accountability is "Off the Table"
There will be no real investigations of that you can be assured.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:18 PM
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2. he was wrong...there will NOT be congressional investigations
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:21 PM
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3. It's all just words though
The Intel people get blamed for everything, but no sacrifice of the scapegoat.

The blame circle runs for a certain time, and then they tell people to forget about it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:10 PM
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5. more news about the reality in this country that will never see the light of day from Corp Media
outlets
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:21 PM
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6. Oh, la de dah
Let's talk about who's wearing a flag lapel pin! That's what's important, by golly. That's what real Americans are vitally interested in discussing.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:49 AM
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7. kick
:kick:
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