The marine throwing the puppy video

[graywarrior]

GRRRRRRRRRRR. Anyone just see that on CNN?

[AlCzervik]

1. i haven't seen it and i don't plan on seeing it.

;(

[Richardo]

4. I'm with you, crs.

I'm this close to hiding all the threads about it, too.

[devilgrrl]

14. I'm already there...

but the hide function isn't working. :-(

[jesus_of_suburbia]

26. I can't watch it.. and I'm not surprised... people are CRUEL.

I can't handle the cruel world sometimes.

[mzmolly]

53. I too plan to avoid it.

Sounds horrid.

[Parche]

2. what is it

havnt seen it yet

:shrug:

:hi:

[NMMNG]

3. You don't want to see it

Trust me. :-(

[NMMNG]

5. I saw it here yesterday

And just now on CNN. Bleeping sadistic SOBs. :grr:

[aquart]

6. I saw a soldier holding a puppy on ABC. I turned off the set.

I could not believe they were showing that to me.

[DS1]

7. How much did CNN show?

[graywarrior]

10. The throwing part

Youtube pulled the video.

[NightWatcher]

11. the whole disgusting thing without warning

I will not be watching them tonight

[DS1]

13. I'm avoiding it

I know how it ends. I think it was pretty dick-ish of CNN to show it, however. I wonder how many kids just saw that.


man, I can't believe I just posted a "won't someone think of the children" line.

[Fire Walk With Me]

56. Strange times, huh?

:(

[cboy4]

22. NightWatcher, don't bury your head in the sand.....we need

to see this so we can all feel/experience the appropriate amount of outrage in order to take action.

If we simply hear about someone throwing a puppy, it wouldn't generate the rage necessary to make sure that thug is punished.

Don't blame CNN. Blame the soldier.

[Rick Myers]

8. You don't need to see it, the description is plain accurate

A couple bored Marines play with a puppy and then throw it off a cliff. Horrible.

[littlebit]

9. I have seen it

and I wish I didn't.

[graywarrior]

12. Hearing it was worse.

[countryjake]

15. I did. I saw a topic on it here last night, many claimed the dog wasn't killed...

I didn't watch the YouTube thing then, cause it just outrages me, with not having much recourse in the matter. Now I've seen it, thanks to Carol Costello, and anyone who tries to insist that it wasn't a real dog or that he was already dead, are simply full of shit.

The real "animals" were not harmed in the making of that video.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. boy, you got that right.

luckily there are not too many of those kind of animals in the military.

[Critters2]

41. How do we know this? Because they haven't been caught on videO?

My question is how many of these incidents, or worse, aren't being posted on youtube. War really is hell. Let's be honest about that.

[countryjake]

52. Many of them have been sent home on video...

just like the Abu Ghraib prison photos were saved as "souvenirs" of their military service, some of these sickos seem to get particular delight in recording their crap. Have you seen this post?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2955733&mesg_id=2955733

[OwnedByFerrets]

17. As sickening as it is.....

and I am sickened to death of the things that have been done in America's name, I am glad they showed it. Its time America saw the evil that is being done in our name. We should be shown much more than this (with warnings to get the kids from the room). So many think that war isnt ugly as long as they dont know about the dirty secrets.

[cboy4]

24. YES! As painful as it is, we need to see all of this.

Excellent points. I totally agree.

:thumbsup:

[countryjake]

25. Agreed. That puppy represents all of the millions of innocents of Iraq.

At the mercy of our forces to do whatever, whenever, and be tossed aside and then conveniently ignored by the American population.

[Lorien]

34. Exactly. Any *animal* who would do such a thing to a puppy

is capable of even worse if he turns his cruelty towards human targets.

[Booster]

30. My Marine nephew who has been to Iraq twice saw this video

and his only comment was "is it any wonder they don't like us over there". My nephew is one of the kindest people I have ever known and I know he would have decked that guy in a nanosecond.

[frylock]

37. if this is what it's going to take to open people's eyes..

then I hope they play it on a fucking loop.

[Ahpook]

I wonder why they air this kind of thing now?

What is their reason? And i am not being naive, i hope:)

The media have been licking the boots of this administration for years, why change now?

Are they airing it for a target audience (namely us) so they can throw out the " They Hate The Troops" garbage again in some twisted way?

Just seems odd.

[Mojorabbit]

18. Shit

Then I can't watch CNN tonite. I have a tape that plays that kind of thing over and over in my head, it horrifys me so. I can't watch it or I will relive it for years.

[cboy4]

19. People who would do this to a puppy need to be

isolated from society in a mental institution.

They need to be locked up because they're an unbelievable danger to all of us.

Scary.

[Lorien]

36. Amen to that. My father says that most child killers started with animals

he worked as a psychologist for a state prison and he takes animal abuse very, very seriously.

[Subdivisions]

20. I wasn't really paying attention and then I looked up from

my monitor just in time to see him holding the puppy up for the camera and then he suddenly...well...nevermind what he suddenly does.

I am appalled...and...pissed.

[thereismore]

21. That's just one puppy. What about women and children blown up into bloody mist?

I wish somebody would tell CNN.

[Lorien]

35. Well, that's the point, isn't it?

If they are capable of such cruelty towards a puppy, then just imagine what the same monsters might have done to innocent human beings. Torture? Rape? Murder that was every bit as cold as the way they murdered that innocent animal? Things far worse than any of us wish to know, I'm sure.

[JanMichael]

23. They need to show it a few more times. People need to see what

military service has the potential to do to some already sick fucks.

Seriously--if you take a sociopathic jerk and put him/her in a uniform, and give them a weapon, you are going to end up with some really sick fuckwits running around.

Support the troops my ass; I support more tax dollars going to the VA so we can try to heal people damaged by their service.

[O.M.B.inOhio]

27. Maybe this will crack the myth that donning a uniform endows you with virtue.

Support Our Troops, we hear. When someone reports of abuse by those troops, there's an implication that they are a traitor to report it. It's funny how all these horrors take place at the hands of our saints in uniform -- torture of helpless (and usually innocent) people, vulgar bullying of a population, half a million civilians dead, cases of premeditated murder -- and its the puppy video that shows up on CNN. And may have a significant impact.

100 more years indeed.

[SKKY]

33. Please read my post in The Lounge...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7534534

[Critters2]

38. Thank you. It needs to be said. nt

[Critters2]

45. I support full funding of the US Institute of Peace, so we can find ways to

run our foreign policy that don't involve violence.

http://www.usip.org/

[ProgressiveFool]

28. I just saw it and wished I hadn't

Yes, what happens to the people in Iraq as a result of this war is infinitely more terrible, and they are just as defenseless as the puppy, but goddam that really breaks the heart.

[graywarrior]

29. Is this what war and violence do to people or was the guy like that anyway?

That's a disturbing question in my mind.

[Critters2]

39. Probably 50/50. May have had tendencies in this direction,

so found a vocation where they would be assets. War is violence, and this government pays people to be violent. Then calls them "troops" and asks us to support them.

[Fox Mulder]

31. I would just love to see someone throw that asshole off a cliff.

That video pissed me off beyond belief.

[graywarrior]

32. Same here....I went ballistic inside my head.

[spanone]

40. i wanna see the dog throws the marine video.....link?

[xchrom]

42. a puppy -- a puppy -- a fuckin little puppy.

brings everything right back to abu ghraib and gitmo.

[varelse]

43. I saw it

and I know this will get flamed but I feel very sorry for those marines. They're missing a vital part that no human being should ever be without, and they do not seem to be aware of that which they are lacking. I'd rather lose my right hand or my eyes or my life than live without what these young men have lost. It was horrifying to see those mutilated souls on display in ones so young.

[Critters2]

44. They're adults. They are NOT the victims here. They've made choices.

I do not feel sorry for them. It's time the military stood up and answered for ALL of its abuses--those committed in the Pentagon against whole nations, and those committed by marines against puppies. These people need to be held responsible.

[Critters2]

46. I just saw it. I wonder how many human beings they did awful things to

before doing this. If this whole war could be posted on youtube, we might finally be outraged enough to bring 'em home. And prosecute the ones who deserve it.

[BreweryYardRat]

47. You know, I've got a sociopathic streak.

I still couldn't throw an animal over a cliff. (Refuse to watch the video, but people have described it in detail.)

Here's hoping these guys are locked up for good.

[merh]

48. The Marine Corp is investigating the video

They think it took place in Hawaii

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2958214

[countryjake]

49. No, the guy was based in Hawaii, it was filmed in Haditha, Iraq.

http://www.komotv.com/news/16237717.html

~snip~

MONROE, Wash. -- The controversial Internet video that purports to show a Marine throwing a puppy off a rocky cliff has triggered threats and harrassment for a local family related to the soldier shown in the video.

The low-quality video shows two Marines joking before one hurls the puppy into a rocky gully. A yelping sound is heard as it flips through the air.

The U.S. Marine Corps has identified the man who appears to throw the dog as a 22-year-old lance corporal. KOMO 4 News has learned the Marine's family lives in Monroe, though his name has not been released by military officials.

The Marine belongs to the 1st Battalion, 3rd Regiment based in Hawaii -- a unit that has returned from a tour in Iraq. Military officials said the video was apparently taped in the town of Haditha, Iraq. Military officials say the Marine has been pulled from training for the duration of the investigation...

[merh]

55. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

:hi:

[countryjake]

57. I just found it out myself on our local news last night...

that video and story was top of the news here, plus the bit on the family being shamed.

:hi: back at ya!

[SunDrop23]

50. As I have said before...

that guy looks like too much of a pussy to fight AQ, so it makes sense we see him involved in something like that, rather than on the front line with his fellow marines.

As shameful as it is, I don't want a poser like this within 10000000000 feet of our national security.

[lonestarnot]

51. No and I don't wanna. I didn't watch it here, and I don't wanna watch it there.

Nutjobs may be home soon. Hope he doesn't live in my neighborhood.

[tuckessee]

54. I'm sure his buddies reported him, right?

He's just a "bad apple"

:sarcasm: