The Canadian government wants to F@#$ around in OUR elections.

[thunder rising]

~4K dead GI's and 10Ks wounded and maimed. One more rigged election could spark civil war. We "the people" are stressed, broke and desperate for change so those asshat stupid MFs better keep to their side of the border with their election rigging schemes. We have enough over here to worry about.

The Canadian government rigging this primary is as dangerous a game as they can imagine. I really don't think they want to open that "Pandora's Box", cause payback is something WE can do. I mean, they fucked with our election, let's rig theirs.

I am sooooo pissed at the Canadian government right now. Fuck them and their NAFTA trade deal. The Canadian government used Canadian money and resources in an attempt to influence our election.

I just haven't seen anybody posting the proper RAGE that must be expressed against the Canadian government.

(Note, if you wish to joke about it...you are clueless as to the seriousness of the situation. That's why neither government wants to talk about it)

[Gold Metal Flake]

1. I would just add that it's the conservative Canadian government.

Yes, it should not be allowed to pass without notice.

[thunder rising]

4. It's international election rigging. And conservatism is not an excuse.

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[thunder rising]

3. Your assumption makes no sense. A Freeper Freeping a Freep government?

[DJ13]

5. Did The Canadian Government Setup Obama Campaign?

March 05, 2008

SNIP

Yet a Canadian government memo fell into the hands of the Associated Press (AP). This gave the appearance that Sen. Obama was in fact deceiving the voters of Ohio and America. The economic advisors of any candidate meat and discuss issues with others daily without the knowledge of said campaign. After all Goolsbee only reiterated Obama´s stance on NAFTA. He never claimed that he would toss it out or make it a useless document.

What Americans must ask is did the Canadian government help setup Obama for this Ohio defeat? There is a most powerful man in Canada who is a friend and partner of Bill Clinton. His name is Frank Giustra who has many business interests including Mining, Banking, Finance, and Entertainment. Being one of Canada´s wealthiest and most influential men he has the power to make many things happen.

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/54303
American Chronicle | Did The Canadian Government Setup Obama Campaign?

[JTFrog]

25. Exactly.

Yet they are great at covering their tracks. Hence the desperation to keep the dynasty going. Bushes and Clintons have been covering up for each for decades. I honestly believe that they will go to their graves doing whatever they can to ensure that nothing comes to light in their lifetimes.

[elehhhhna]

6. WE would NEVER eff around with another country's elections! The nerve!

[Hamlette]

18. LOL elehhhhna

[razors edge]

7. Bush gutted the CIA,

hell, he gutted and politicized the entire US government. Whoever takes over for the Dems better right theses wrongs day one and consider paying Canada back in spades.

Even Hillary may want to get reelected.

[JBoy]

8. I'd be OK with the Democratic president helping us get rid of Harper!

[Doctor Cynic]

9. ...and with half of the US Embassy staff hauled off in handcuffs.

[JBoy]

10. Just the Harper appointees.

The career diplomats are probably fine.

[Canuckistanian]

11. What, exactly, did the Canadian govt. do?

One of Obama's people met with a Canadian embassy official - at the Obama person's request!

No "deal" was made. WE didn't intervene in anything.

And remember, NAFTA is a TWO-WAY deal here. NO changes will be made until BOTH our parliament and your Congress agree on a new deal.

What "money and resources" are you referring to? I've heard nothing about it here.

[Omega3]

12. and BHO wants to talk out of both sides of his mouth. such faux outrage, you guys are comical

[Tarc]

13. Why is it Canada's fault that Obama told them to ignore his pandering rhetoric?

And why is it Canada's fault that the Obama camp is now lying about having ever said it at all?

[lonestarnot]

14. wrong forum and why do you hate brown skin?

[texasleo]

15. Bomb those bacon-eating surrender monkeys!

[arthritisR_US]

16. I too am pissed with my government meddling with your election and

the Liberal party was pissed too, so much so that they brought it up on the floor of the House, condemning the Cons for doing such and demanding an investigation into it all. But, don`t act like this is a one sided affair. During the election of Harper vs Martin, the election which won Harper his minority government here, Harper and the Cons were heavily backed financially from religious nut groups who were getting their money from your Ralph Reid and his religious right nut jobs. It was nothing short of money laundering and allowed the Cons to put up 2.5 TV ads for every one the Liberals had. So, election tampering has been going on for quite some time at the hands of the right wingers south of our boarder.

[tom_paine]

17. Exactly. Your Canadian Bushies just paying back their Amerikan Bushie Masters.

Beware of Virtual Anschluss. Imperial Amerika cannot allow a Free Canada next door. That is one of the reasons why our Bushies (and I have no doubt it goes much deeper than just the overt money laundering) installed Harper.

[arthritisR_US]

19. ITA, Harper et al are nothing less that scum sucking thugs, I

detest them all, they make me as sick as repukian`s do!!!:grr:

[tom_paine]

21. Of course they are scum-sucking thugs. They're Bushies.

Don't give them short shrift. They will steal your nation right before your eyes and leave you powerless and enslaved. They have already started.

As I said, the Bushies can no more leave a Free Canada on their doorstep than Nazi Germany, one of the earliest Bushie allies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml

could leave a Free Poland or France on THEIR doorstep.

[arthritisR_US]

22. You`re absolutely right! It will be one fine day when we both

get our country`s back.

[GaYellowDawg]

20. I don't know why anyone would be shocked.

Meddling with other governments and elections to promote our self-interests (and/or the self-interest of our major corporations) has been our modus operandi for a very long time, in administrations of both parties. We should be prepared for other countries to try to do the same thing with us. Doesn't excuse anyone else for doing it to us, but I think we'd do better to address the problem itself rather than being OUTRAGED by it.

I will also add that as a nation, we're partially at fault, for running elections in such a fashion that invites tampering.

[SoCalDem]

24. Exactly.. we mess around in other countries' elections all the time

and canada definitely feels like they have a vested interest in our elections.

the people involved in the memo-thing were "around" during Clinton's administration, and I would not be a bit surprised if BC "suggested" that they meet with the candidates' staffs and then send him a memo about how it went.. then he could cherry-pick the parts that would affect the primaries, and drop the little bomb close enough to the time, that there would be no way to "explain" it in time..

This stuff does not happen by accident:(

[tuvor]

23. Psssst...it's not just "Canada's NAFTA trade deal".

I do believe the USA had at least a bit of influence in the matter.

So, if you want to fuck Canada and NAFTA, perhaps you'd be so kind as to recognize the USA's role in the agreement. In which case, you'll see that you should also fuck yourself.

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