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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 06:59 PM
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Here is a short quote from Orwell to help you understand FISA
George Orwell, 1984, Chapter 1

"There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live -- did live, from habit that became instinct -- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:02 PM
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1. I won't be surprised when a GPS chip is implanted in every newborn. 'Just in case'. nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:02 PM
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2. Orwell's notions make me wonder what we are in for
When we bring home the equipment to make our TV's compatible with the new HD requirements.

Will we be watching enhanced Tv - or will someone be watching us?
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:03 PM
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3. Now they have infra-red
darkness holds no secrets anymore.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:03 PM
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4. But Then It Was Too Late
They Thought They Were Free - Read by Dave Emory

The Germans, 1933-45

Excerpt from pages 166-73 of "They Thought They Were Free" First published in 1955

By Milton Mayer

But Then It Was Too Late

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

....

"Yes," I said.

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, THE SHOCK DOCTRINE will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’


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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:04 PM
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5. If I didn't know better, I'da thunk George Bush read that book.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:13 PM
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6. One of the main things police & govt investigators look for when they question individuals
is an inordinate concern with the Constitution & individual rights.

Of course just what constitutes an "inordinate" amount of concern is, is debatable.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 07:17 PM
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7. our new Attorney General has big pictures up on his walls of Orwell
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