Former FBI Translator Makes Shocking Allegations

[mmonk]

Sibel Deniz Edmonds is a Turkish-American former FBI translator and founder of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). Edmonds was fired from her position as a language specialist at the FBI's Washington Field Office in March, 2002, after she accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving foreign nationals, alleging serious acts of security breaches, cover-ups, and intentional blocking of intelligence which, she contended, presented a danger to the United States' security.

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Edmonds filed suit against the Department of Justice, the FBI, and several high-level officials, alleging that she was wrongfully terminated from the FBI in retaliation for reporting criminal activities committed by government officials and employees. On October 18, 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft invoked the State Secrets Privilege in order to prevent disclosure of the nature of Edmonds' work on the grounds that it would endanger national security, and asked that the suit be dismissed.

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On June 23, 2004, the lawfulness of the retroactive reclassification was challenged in a suit filed by POGO, citing fear that the group might be retroactively punished for having published the letters on its website. The Justice Department tried, but failed, to get the suit dismissed, and said that POGO could not prove that it was being threatened with prosecution. On February 18, 2005, the day before a hearing on the case, the Justice Department, under the leadership of a new Attorney General, backed away from its claim that those particular documents were classified, and approved their release in full.

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But on April 21, 2005, in the hours before the hearing of her appeal, three judges issued a ruling that barred all reporters and the public from the courtroom. During the proceedings, Edmonds was not allowed into the courtroom for the hearing. On May 6, 2005, when her case was dismissed, no reason was provided, and no opinion cited.

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http://www.huntingtonnews.net/national/080306-staff-nationalnuclearsecrets.html


Thought I would put Sibel back out there for everybody. Especially since the White House wants Nuclear Agreements with Turkey.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

1. K&R for Sibel

Thank you mmonk :patriot:

[mmonk]

6. Thanks

Anytime.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

2. Whether underground or not, her story should be published and widely distributed.

I know there are many busting their butts to reach the American public with huge obstacles.

Nevertheless, her story could change the face of "democracy" in the best way possible.

We are a world of people who should NO LONGER BE CONDEMNED as too gullible to be allowed to choose our destinies. We deserve better than to be ruled by those who's interest are invested in controlling populations rather than empowering real democracies.

[mmonk]

9. Hopefully,

it can kept on a burner. It's a shame mainstream media has such a wall out there. The good thing is it keeps creeping out here or there in the US now (though a trickle) because of the Times articles. I have been busy trying to pressure reps. I did a document dump on one Congressman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. The problem is they already have access to documentation but I guess the people, their safety, and the constitution aren't priorities.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

17. I admire your persistence.

I know it's difficult for you all.

Thank you. :patriot:
I appreciate all those who invest so much in the foundation of a real democracy and a free people: That foundation is truth through facts and reason.

[mmonk]

3. I will note in addition to this

the POGO documentation and the Justice Department documents saying it was ok to publish the information is vailable here: http://www.pogo.org/p/government/ga-050202-classification.html , http://www.pogo.org/p/government/pogovsashcroft.html .

[mmonk]

11. I'm adding this line from the POGO release with comment.

In my opinion, the government is admitting the reclassification of public documentation was improper proves that Congress could go ahead and investigate PUBLICLY. Any claim about state secrets is muted by admission. Here it is:

“The fact that the Justice Department gave up on the eve of the hearing shows that this information was classified for an improper purpose,” said Danielle Brian, POGO’s executive director. “If this information could ever have harmed national security, the Justice Department would never have caved in.”

[Blarch]

4. Fuck it. Does it really matter ?

Most people here have family memebrs who are repubs...who support the destruction of our constitution....and they are STILL treated as equals ..and STILL shown respect.

The country has failed it's self.

I don't understand how a true Democrat could treat these monsters as equals ...but here we are.

[wildbilln864]

5. Sadly....

I have to agree with you. :patriot:
and by the way, k&r!

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

8. Of course, her story still matters no matter the state of politics or denial or not.

It's difficult to transcend the indoctrination of politics,...but, certainly not impossible. Far more Democrats have proven that fact than Republicans,..FAR MORE.

[wildbilln864]

7. And thank you for doing so. People have to start paying attention. nt

:hi:

[mmonk]

10. Anytime. I wish I had a private line to every household, so they would know.

[wildbilln864]

25. I know what you mean there. nt

[NMDemDist2]

12. how is it we have no info on Ms. Edmunds in the Research forum?

we have pages and pages on the Valerie Plame case

:shrug:

[mmonk]

13. Good question.

Maybe because there was a public case related to the Plame issue whereby all systems fail (willfully I might add) in this one.

[annabanana]

15. Beaucoup info here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2644525#2646224

(bookmark it!)

[seemslikeadream]

16. and here

Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344

[annabanana]

14. So now we've had one article in WV, and another in...Where was it?

Two weeks ago, or so. They have been the only two in print in the US.

on edit: Oh yes.. Dallas:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-sibeledmonds_17edi.ART.State.Edition1.45b446a.html

[mmonk]

18. Yes.

I guess it's a matter of courage. Anyone can send the articles to other papers and editors because you never know who else may decide to run a story on it.

[JohnyCanuck]

19. k&r n/t

[leftofthedial]

20. there are so many threads to the story of the bush cabal's crimes

sometime, somewhere, the truth MUST come out.

[Rex]

21. Oh I see, she was fired for ACTUALLY defending national security.

Unlike the Repukes who hate America and help destroy the nation from the inside out.

[mmonk]

22. Yep, pretty much.

That's what she got for doing the right thing.

[lonestarnot]

23. K & R!

Funny about those nuke agreements w/ Turkey :nuke: but I'm not laughing.

[mmonk]

24. Me either.

[mojowork_n]

26. It's not just Sybil, it's the tip of the Turkish "Deep State" + "WMD's"

I ran into some articles not too long ago:

The *nuclear proliferation angle*, which ties Valerie Plame to Sibel Edmonds, may possibly be related to these recent events in Turkey and Central Asia.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2860234

Excerpt:

New York Times--ISTANBUL, Nov. 30 {2007} — A Turkish passenger jet crashed in the mountains of western Turkey early Friday, killing all 57 people on board, including several prominent nuclear physicists on their way to a conference, Turkish authorities said.

The plane, a McDonnell Douglas MD-83 operated by Atlasjet, an airline based in Istanbul, took off from Istanbul and disappeared from radar shortly before it was due to land at the airport in Isparta. It crashed about seven miles from the airport, near the town of Keciborlu, the authorities said. The cause of the crash was unclear. The weather was good, airline officials said.
The plane crashed in an area that was not on its scheduled route, according to Semsettin Uzun, the governor of Isparta Province. “We don’t understand how it landed there,” he said.

Other nuclear scientists were recently kidnapped in Pakistan, and also disappeared, perhaps conveniently. (That's at the top of that link, the excerpt above is from a response.)

Also, from the beginning of this year:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2855600

Excerpt:

"On 22 January, Turkish police arrested 33 individuals, some connected with the military, in the largest concerted action against the "deep state" – that shadowy underworld linking extremists and criminals from the spheres of military, political, judicial and the academy. Some were accused of belonging to an ultranationalist group, Ergenekon, that was allegedly "preparing a series of bomb attacks aimed at fomenting chaos ahead of a coup in 2009 against Turkey's center-right government, whose European Union-linked reforms are opposed by ultranationalists." The ultranationalists (who also distrust the Erdogan government for its alleged Islamist agenda) were plotting to assassinate prominent cultural figures, such as Nobel-prize winning novelist Orhan Pamuk, journalist Fehmi Koru, and possibly Kurdish politicians.

The deaths of Armenian journalist Hrant Dink, two Italian priests and three Protestant missionaries have already been blamed on ultranationalists associated with the Ergenekon group..."


If anyone's ever able to get Valerie Plame and Sibel Edmonds in the same room, at the same time, in front of an authorized investigative agency, it seems like there might be things to talk about.]

• Three dull consonants: W, M, & D. The threat of nuclear terrorism.
  
• To keep Americans safe, routine protocols regarding privacy rights are 'temporarily' off. All communications are being monitored.
  
• The one telecomm that wouldn't go along -- Qwest Communications (thanks, kpete, for the post the other day) -- was punished for non-compliance (6 mos. before 9/11!), and it's CEO publicly embarrassed.
  
• The FISA/Immunity issue is *up for grabs*, right now!
  
• But the elephant in the global media tent is Sibel Edmonds' & Valerie Plame's *real, actual* work in that area, to stop nuclear technology transfer,
  
• Compare their efforts to those of the Bush administration, in preventing WMD spread.
  
• If it can be revealed who thwarted Sybil & Valerie's efforts to do their jobs properly.
  
• And that credible evidence of "WMD proliferation" was itself suppressed --
  
• That points the finger back at this administration.
  
• Casting real doubt about who's really asking for...
  
• "immunity", for what sort of...
  
• "threat to Americans"
  

[mojowork_n]

28. PS -- For more on Valerie Plame,

check out Peace Patriot's Journal:

What are the Traitorgate cover-ups covering up?

It's the article permanently embedded on the right half of the page:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Peace%20Patriot

[AzDar]

27. K & R....

:kick:

[AntiFascist]

29. K&R, the mass media and the status quo in Washington will fight hard....

to keep this information from coming out. We must fight back harder.

[Cherchez la Femme]

30. That White House will do whatever it dam well wants to

whether it's done by fair (do they know that word?) or foul (their middle name) means.

No big surprise.

We are the only one's who can stop them.
These criminals MUST be held accountable! It is our duty to see they are held to the Rule of Law -- don't the Repukes remember that little term? It's all they cried pre-shrub, and all they WILL cry when a Democratic president regains the presidency.
Don't forget, don't let them --or our own DINO's fool you.

We must restore Honor and Dignity to our politicians over their overweening self-interest. No question.
And no excuses about 'not having the votes' to bring them to justice
before they are even tried before the American people!

Restoring fairness in media and controlling media monopolies would be a great first step towards restoring sanity to our country, IMHO.

[crimsonblue]

31. Since Dubya doesn't have to play by the rules, why should she?

She should just go on record and spout all of her secrets. And I mean every last one. So what if doing that is "illegal"? Exposing illegal activities should never be illegal, but in a Bush world, who knows.. If Bushco tries to retaliate, that's when you move to France and give King George the finger. If the leaders of our country have no respect for the Constitution, then why should we? Just because they say so?