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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:13 PM
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Poll question: Am I the only one that thinks an Agent Provocateur was behind the Times Square bombing?
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:15 PM
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1. What exactly do you mean by an "Agent Provocateur"? n/t
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:19 PM
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2. Someone pro-war who wants to make the anti-war crowd look violent.
Is that clear enough for you sparky?
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:47 PM
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8. No need to be insulting
I just wasn't sure what the term meant.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:52 PM
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11. For future reference...
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agent%20provocateur

a·gent pro·vo·ca·teur

a secret agent hired to incite suspected persons to some illegal action, outbreak, etc., that will make them liable to punishment.

A person employed to associate with suspected individuals or groups with the purpose of inciting them to commit acts that will make them liable to punishment.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:20 PM
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3. Government-sponsored.
It happened a lot during the civil rights and anti-war days. The government would send agents in to provoke violence or engage in violent activities. It's still utilized around the globe but I'm not definite this event was an example.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:21 PM
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4. Like a cop dressed up like anarchists in rally throwing rocks
n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:38 PM
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5. Riding a bicycle?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:41 PM
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6. What would you want a Bushie Agent Provocatur to ride, A Gov. Issued Ford Explorer?
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 01:41 PM by tom_paine
Oh, THAT would fool a lot of people.

I am not saying it was an Agent Provocateur, I honestly don't know.

But maybe if they rode in that Explorer and dressed like a Secret Service Agent with a black suit, dark glasses, and a radio earpiece, they would be more effective in pretending to be a member of the antiwar movement, no?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:08 PM
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13. Honey, an agent provocateur would use a real bomb.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:58 AM
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20. You sure about that? Modern forensics would have an easier time tracking a real bomb
Like the way the Bushies' anthrax they used in 2001 was so easily tracked back to Ft. Detrick Labs. Further, as the anthrax attacks were immediately a federal crime, it didn't matter as much, because the crooked Bushies in charge of the investigation could more easily tank the investigation and no one would be the wiser.

This attack, in the middle of NYC, likely has a lot more people involved, including the NYPD, which is probably not under the control of crooked Bushies the way the anthrax investigatin was. Bushies had a firm and sole grip on the evidence from the first attack on the tabloid that printed the pictures of the drunk Bush daughters, let alone the attacks on the Democrats.

The point being, THIS attack the evidence was not wholly under Bushie control from the first, I speculate.

Again, I am not certain, so I am not married to the assertion that it was an agent provocateur. However, your immediate dismissal, given the absolute and utter corruption which has taken over thsi nation in which almost everything, particularly when it comes to "terrorism" is a lie or a potemkin sham. In that context, we would be as foolsih as Soviet Citizens, cicra 1977, to believe anything our Bushie Comrades told us. We would also be foolsih to believe that the Bushie Comrade wouldn;t run False Flags to further their own political goals.

My God, it's already happened multiple times THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. To name two examples that readily pop into mind:

Remember the Sears Tower and Fort Dix busts? Both turned out to be Potemkin Operations using FBI "informants" (Agent Provocateurs) to set up a bunch of clueless goobs who were never even CLOSE to any action, just some stoned blather, then make it look like the Bushies broke up the Terror Ring of the Century.

Remember, the Bushies share many characteristics with Soviet Communist Party Bosses and Nazi Party Bosses, and we must never forget that all of them use and used "plausible deniability" to cause doubt in the minds of their victims that what was really happening was happening.

Now certainly in some areas, the Nazis and Soviets were (for the moemnt) far FAR worse tahn the Bushies, but there is one place the Nazis, Soviets and Bushies are fully identical. That is the frequency and size of the lies they tell. Identical. 100%. Different lies, same frequency and audacity.

In such an environment, it is always wise to suspect Bushie/Nazi/Soviet lies and false flags because they are ubiquitous. From little lies like plastic turkeys and stamping Chinese Boxes "made in America" to Big Lies like Iraq had 400 liters of botulinum toxin, the "Fat Osama" video of 2002 and the Bin Laden October Surprise video of 2004.

Oh, and by the way. I am a guy. Kindly don't call me honey unless you are a good looking woman planning to sleep with me, OK?
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:43 PM
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7. maybe, maybe not
not enough info for me to decide either way. From what I've seen on the video, the "bomb" looked more like an overgrown firecracker to me...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:50 PM
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9. I think it was an anarchist
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:57 PM
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12. Yeah, I bet he was one of these schmucks in this video
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 02:07 PM by devilgrrl
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:51 PM
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10. No esta solo......
Strange how these events, along with bin Laden's latest "Greatest Hits" video, always seem to surface when there's a FISA wiretapping or telecom immunity debate going on..... The flags are often false in BushAmerica.

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:17 PM
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16. Bin Laden after using "Just For Men" on his beard. n/t
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:10 PM
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14. false flag.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:11 PM
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15. There is not enough info, but.... in support of your theory
tell me how fast did this go into the waste basket?

You;d think a bombing would be in the front pages of your local press...

So if it was meant to scare... they have not done that effectivey
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:19 PM
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17. Since when do people against violence use bombs?
Last time I checked - never.
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John Kerry VonErich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:16 AM
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18. Could be the second coming of Weather Underground
nt
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:14 AM
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23. But it's not.
It is, most likely, republicon homeland Black Ops.

Your tax dollars at work. Against America.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:36 AM
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19. Yes, now that we have more info
same people behind the UK and Mexican Consulate grenade bombings. Exact same MO

We've had several of these over the least three years or so
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:47 AM
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21. "Let's dress up a plane in UN colors to provoke Saddam"
Remember, that's exactly what Bush told Blair, according to the British Government.

If you don't believe that politicians conspire to stage False Flag attacks, then you simply don't believe in history.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:51 AM
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22. How is it possible they only had one camera view in times square?
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