TO ALL THE GORE NAYSAYERS: read carefully....

[lildreamer316]

Just explain ONE.

ONE

thing to me:

On Current.com, the site he is CHAIRMAN of, why did he post these videos:

http://current.com/items/84987281_health_care_is_a_right

http://current.com/items/84986481_get_the_troops_home

http://current.com/items/84986911_americans_deserve_more_protection

http://current.com/items/88817757_gay_men_and_women_should_have_the_same_rights

http://current.com/items/88283801_no_official_role_for_government

http://current.com/items/88817754_who_makes_the_decision


and not ones concerning his favorite cause, global warming?

Current is a great platform for short, updated, informative videos about how we can be more conscious about our carbon footprint, etc. If, as many of you say, he has totally given up on politics, and has absolutely NO interest in getting involved in this year's political scene, why waste the space and time to put up pieces about issues that are real hotbuttons in THIS election and time? Why not wait until the next go-round? We already know he's liberal! No offense, but who's asking for the answers he has already given??

AND BEFORE YOU SAY THAT he has stated that he isn't running in 2008/has slammed the door....

“You know, I haven't ruled out the idea of getting back into the political process at some point in the future,” Gore said. “Don't expect to, but if I did get back, it would be as a candidate for president, not in any other position.”

http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2007/20071210130113.aspx

(NOTICE HE SAID PRESIDENT ONLY.)

AND

"I have no plans to run," he said in the interview at Oslo's City Hall

http://www.reuters.com/article/sphereNews/idUSL1034085720071211?sp=true&view=sphere

WHICH IS NOT ANY DIFFERENT than the last few times he said it, like this:

"You know my answer, that's the problem. Because I don't want to sound repetitive. I am not thinking about being a candidate. I have no plans to be a candidate. But, yes, it's true, I have not made a so- called Sherman statement and ruled it out for all time. I see no reason or necessity to do that."
--Gore on Larry King Live, May 22, 2007. I have it on DVR, but I copied it from
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/05/more_on_gore_an.html


and here:

"So if you decide to run, do you think we would see the Al Gore from the movie? Or the Al Gore from 2000?
Well, I don’t plan to run. I don’t plan to run. And I don’t expect to run.

How many times a day does somebody ask you this?
Well, I’m doing a lot of interviews and it’s on the list of questions. For every one of them. And I appreciate that. I appreciate that people think enough of me still in that world to ask that question. It’s true that I haven’t, uh, gotten to the point where I am willing to completely rule it out for all time. But, that is really more a matter of the internal shifting of gears. I’m not making plans to run again.

But you’re not ruling it out?
Uh… no. (smiles) "

http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_5179&pageNum=2



I thought liberals were supposed to have open minds. My mistake.

[KaryninMiami]

1. Talk about a miracle-- it is my fondest dream- epecially now,

that Gore could be slotted in and put an end to this misery. He'd win hands down- no questions asked. Ah if only....

[Zorra]

2. Agreed. n/t

[seemunkee]

3. Still haven't taken my Gore 2008 bumper sticker off the car

Was ready to get an Edwards one but....

[malaise]

4. I wish the Dems would settle for Gore

That would be perfect.

[DemocratInSoCal]

5. We'll Probably Never Really Know

Was it his decision to not run? Were the "powers that be" TELLING him that he cannot run.

Does he think that things will be SOOOOOOOOOO Incredibly BAD in the coming years, that he wants no part of Any blame for it, and the problems this country could face. Would he make a difference for the better? No Question At All. But is he the Savior? I'm not sure there is Anybody capable, nor is there any way to know right now, the problems we could face. How low could the $ get in the next 10 months? Housing still stands to drop another 20-50% in the coming months/years. Realistically, where will the bottom be? And still Helicopter Ben is going nowhere, and hasn't even started the engines yet.

Anyways, there is no question that I would vote for him. But at this point, I don't sense that he will be asked. I think that Obama & Clinton will fight it out, because they both want this, and feel that they deserve this. They would never allow for Gore to come and steal this from them. They're far too selfish and short sighted to do something so bold and grand. Whatever happens, I don't see "the powers that be," going dramatic, and putting his name up for nomination.

But if they did, I wonder what would happen. Seriously, at what point could his name be introduced at the convention? Is it simply a matter of a delegate nominating, and waiting for a Second? Would Obama & Clinton still be up for nomination, and would this just end up causing a 3 Way Split, with still no nominee?

Either he truly wants nothing to do with the office or politics, or others want him to have nothing to do with the office or politics. I fear this is his last chance, and perhaps we'll never know.

[Cronus Protagonist]

6. Albert Gore is the unity candidate

He's THE ONE. As I've always said.

[RBInMaine]

7. Gore's not running. Stop these fantasyland posts please.

[DemocratInSoCal]

10. Sorry, I Thought This Was America, Not Amerika

I guess people who would still vote for Edwards are crackpots also. Since when is it wrong to wish "our" candidate was running.

BAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! BAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! Let's all be sheep.

[earth mom]

36. Quit telling people what to do-Mind your own biz! Gore/Edwards 2008 Baby!

[rosesaylavee]

46. Wow, are you psychic?

Tell me what the convention in August will be like then. I would be relieved to know.

[Alexander]

8. If the convention is deadlocked I want Gore.

That's the easiest way to ensure party unity.

[IDemo]

9. I have an open mind, thanks

I am perfectly open to a run by Al in 2012 if neither of the current two candidates are able to defeat McCain in November. He would definitely be my first choice.

[DemocratInSoCal]

12. Too Late

I don't think this country will make it through a McLame "presidency." There are far too many unknowns as to what 2012 will be like, to think that far ahead, or whether Gore will be in any position to run then.

This was/is his chance. I think he's either content about not having the opportunity, or else he's being "told," in no unspoken terms, to be content about not running.

[IDemo]

17. Yes, it likely will be too late by then

But to assume he can simply enter the convention hall with his hands over his head and gain the instant support of millions of people who have invested very heavily of time, effort, money, and tears, borders on arrogance.

He had his chance for '08. If he seriously did not believe any of the candidates capable of the job, he would have stepped forward before now. He did not.

[DemocratInSoCal]

19. It's Not His Choice

The only way he would be placed in that position, is if his name were introduced in nomination. I'm wondering what the procedure for that is.

Essentially, he would then have to turn the nomination down, were he to receive the support of enough delegates. The only question would be how it works, and if his would at that point be the only name, introduced as a compromise.

Does anybody think that either of these candidates would have the "balls" to do something like throw his/her support behind Gore? Were Obama to get up on the podium, and pledge his delegates to nominee Al Gore, would Hillary thus be in no position to not follow as well, essentially giving the nomination to Gore?

And then the ultimate question. With the support of Obama AND the support of Clinton, is there any way that Al Gore would not become our next President? ANY WAY WHATSOEVER?

[IDemo]

25. I was speaking metaphorically

Of course he can't just walk into the convention like a pro wrestler and demand the nomination.

But the time for him to have made a pitch for '08 has come and gone. It strikes me as messianic projection to continue pushing the idea that it will even come down to this. If Hillary continues as is, the super delegates, like it or not, are going to line up behind the candidate with the strongest pledged delegate lead - Obama. They are not there to serve as deal breakers or party breakers, despite much of the rhetoric on DU which suggests they are. Only in the event that a notably bad choice has been made by the voters will they override. If it comes down to August in Denver before we have a nominee, that will be regrettable in my opinion, but the process will still ultimately work as intended.

[DemocratInSoCal]

28. You Assume Much

I don't anybody really knows for sure what will happen. This is uncharted waters. Why do you think the media is lapping it all up? This is exactly as they have planned. Uncertainty.

Obama followers are overly cocky at thinking they have it sewn up, just like Clinton supporters are naive to think they're going to be capable of catching up.

You have no idea how the unpledged delegates will go. All it is at this point is wishful thinking on either parties part. If neither gets to the magic number, then you just don't know.

If it's close, and it very well could be, then wish as you might, you do not know which way the unpledged will go. And if they go to Clinton disproportionately, there will be deadlock. And mathmatically, it is a possibility.

[IDemo]

35. I consider math a useful tool

The numbers have already been posted ad nauseaum here, but Hillary would need to combine a herculean effort and a severe collapse by Obama to close the gap. He is favored to win most of the next 16 primaries, most by significant margins. And, like it or not, delegates from red states and caucus states do count.

I do not know exactly how the Super D's will vote, but, as has been explained by numerous sources*, they are not about to do something so outrageous as reverse a significant lead by either of these two candidates. They know that would be damaging to the Party and dangerous for their political futures. They are still an undemocratic concept and I would do away with them if it were in my power, but the fears expressed on DU about our next president being chosen in a smoke-filled room and reversing the will of the voters are largely unfounded.

* - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=24286
http://usliberals.about.com/b/2008/02/11/super-delegate-insiders-will-not-select-the-democratic-nominee-three-most-likely-scenarios.htm
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008802170385

[DemocratInSoCal]

37. It's Still Assumption

What you don't understand is that it is possible. Say what you will about numbers and how Hillary needs this and that, but you just don't know 100%, do you? You don't know that Hillary won't pick up enough delegates to make it close enough. You don't know how the superdelegates will go, especially if it gets closer. You Just Don't Know.

I don't have a favorite in this race. I would have much rather been able to throw my support behind Gore or Edwards. So it's not my call anyways. But I sure as heck would not assume anything if I supported either candidate. It's a long way to the convention, and many variables lie ahead. While it looks good for Obama, he has not reached the magic # yet, and he probably won't do so without the SD's.

[Andrea]

57. Even if he does reach the magic number before Denver,

We will need to have a back-up plan because he is very likely to be completely scandal scarred by that time. Some will flame me for this, but it's true. We all know about some of the dirt. There may very well be more we don't know about. If he pulls far enough ahead to look like he's going to win, the Republicans will be all over him and the media will be all over him. I don't believe we'll nominate someone who is "damaged goods". The same goes for Hillary. Sure, she's been vetted much more extensively than Obama, but with the things she says and the way she attacks him - she will be even more unelectable by August than she is now.

You are completely right to say that it is possible. There are so many variables. And if we need a new candidate (I for one am sure we will), Al Gore is the perfect choice.

[Andrea]

60. They most certainly will reverse it, if we get to Denver

and neither Obama nor Clinton is any longer a viable candidate. If things continue the way they have been and if the scandals pick up steam (I can't imagine they won't), most of the people that have voted for these candidates will be ready, willing and able to get behind Gore rather than let McCain win. And this type of situation is exactly why the superdelegate structure was put in place to begin with.

[Andrea]

56. I think both of the candidates would direct their delegates to support Gore

It would be handled behind closed doors. A "come to Jesus" meeting with all involved parties, plus Howard Dean, Jimmy Carter, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, George McGovern, George Mitchell, and other big names would lay it all on the table. Obama and Clinton would have to admit they aren't viable. Concessions would be made to them so they could "keep face". Gore's agreement will have already been obtained. Obama and Clinton will direct their delegates. Gore's name will be placed in nomination. He'll win the nomination by a huge margin and then, thank God, he'll win the election, too.

[Andrea]

55. This is different

This isn't a matter of him deciding he wants it. This would be a true draft. The leaders of the party, including the current and former candidates would prevail on him to run. It's becoming increasingly clear that we can't win with Obama or Clinton. It's going to be even worse by the time of the convention. People will embrace this idea, because they want to win. None of us wants a McCain presidency.

[Andrea]

54. Or he's being held back as our ace in the hole

What could be better than a Gore candidacy? It's completely conceivable to me that with all the infighting and bloodletting, the party leaders have conferred and decided that the only way to unify the party and win in November is with a Gore candidacy. The only sensible way to bring this into reality is for them all to keep quiet about it for now. Probably up until the convention. They can foresee that things will only get worse with all the mud-slinging between Clinton and Obama. They know that the Rezko and Excelon scandals are gathering strength. They know that Hillary is damaging the party by comparing McCain favorably to Obama. I'm sure they have been deep in contingency planning for several weeks now.

Gore may not have wanted to run, but he will accept the nomination under these circumstances, because, as you say, there is serious doubt about the country surviving 4 years of McCain. He cares very much about this country.

I think we need to make it clear to the party leadership that the people recognize that a Gore candidacy is the best thing for the party and the nation.

[tachyon]

11. It is absolutely mind-boggling to me that out of 100 million adult Americans, the 3 top candidates

at the moment are all mediocre...and to me not presidential material (not of course that Bush ever was but that's beside the point)

I'm VERY afraid neither Obama or Clinton can beat McCain in the general election.

[DemocratInSoCal]

14. Valid Concerns

Obama is too fresh, and corruptable I fear. His Spin is at a high level.

Clinton is not much different. Her negative is that she's a Clinton, and I can't stand the thought of a dynasty. Her Positive is that her husband was a good President, and economy wise, one of our better Presidents.

McLame is just more of the same. Things would be Very, Very BAD under him, and I'd be extremely Bearish on this country's future, and I'm pretty Bearish about it now anyways. He's by FAR the worst of the 3. I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR HIM!

I'd be in line at 7 AM to vote for Al Gore in November.

[tachyon]

39. Oh sure I agree McCainn would be a Major Disaster. And I don't hate either of our Dem

candidates, I just think it's a shame we couldn't hang onto someone way better (I met John Edwards about 36 hours before he suddenly withdrew. I was for him before meeting him and freaked when he dropped out)
drat

[Andrea]

61. I couldn't agree more. n/t

[libnnc]

13. You know what...

When he first posted those, I thought it was just to promote the site's viewpoint videos...but now that you put all those quotes together...

hmmmm ..... I'm open to anything at this point.

[alphafemale]

15. Not just no. But HELL NO!

You really think anything would be different in round 2?

Oh hell no.

I don't want someone who has proved they will not fight...at all.

[DemocratInSoCal]

16. Fight Who?

The Supreme Court?

THEY were not going to let him win. What don't you understand about that? They had the deck stacked against him, just like they did with Kerry.

But there was No Way Gore was going to be allowed to become President.

Don't you know how Frickin' EVIL this Cabal is, and what lengths they're willing to go to?

[alphafemale]

18. He should have never let it be close enough to allow them to cheat.

Plus he did lose his home state.

I am not looking to go backward and repeat mistakes...thanks.

[DemocratInSoCal]

20. He Made Mistakes

Some of those mistakes, were not of his own making. He was forced to deal with a Presidency under attack. A Presidency which had recently become Impeached. Do you think that running on his own record, with a President who had been truthful, there is any way it would have been close?

Al Gore is not Bill Clinton. It would have been a landslide were it not for Clinton's baggage. Perhaps Mr. Gore did not deal with that situation the way he should have, and it ultimately might have cost him. We'll never know.

Nor will we know the lengths THEY were willing to go, to get King george into office. Whether Gore would have needed a landslide to overcome the forces gathering against him.

[alphafemale]

22. There is not even 10% of people that would want Al Gore as president. Honest.

Drafting him would be like drafting an automatic loss.

[DemocratInSoCal]

23. I Can't Believe You Would Say That

I know several people who would GLADLY vote for Al Gore. In a heartbeat, were he the nominee.

I know a Democrat who is voting for McLame, but there is no way they would not vote for Al Gore if he was the nominee.

So you are completely wrong. But I'm not at all surprised, especially with all the myopia going on here lately. Which is probably why Al wants no part of this lame process.

[alphafemale]

27. You knowing "several people" does not a candidate make.

Al Gore would NEVER win the Presidency.

And another little addition to the equation...??

HE ISN'T EVEN INTERESTED!!!

[DemocratInSoCal]

29. Not Wasting My Time

I see the avatar. You've convinced me. Thanks.

[alphafemale]

31. By the way...welcome to DU

[earth mom]

38. You obviously don't have a clue. Gore is THE ONE. PERIOD.

Funny, but I've heard rethuglicans spew almost the same words as yours out of their vile mouths.

Makes ya wonder what YOUR agenda is....

[alphafemale]

43. Yeah. Because that worked out so well before.

Yeah. Let's collectively punch ourselves in the face.

Why not?

We like nominating losers!!!!

[tachyon]

51. You're right...we are doing it again.

Masochism can be fun at certain times but it's a crappy way to run a political party.

[earth mom]

52. The election in 2000 was STOLEN. So was 2004. Only rethuglicans & freepers think Gore lost.

I can't tell you how many a$$hat posts I've seen like yours on this board in the years I've been here.

The rest of us REAL dems know the presidential election of 2000 was stolen and a traitorous treasonous bastard has occupied that office ever since!!! :grr:

[Pastiche423]

69. Your ignorance as to what happened in 2000

is quite embarrassing to read on a Democratic board that was created because of that very event.

[tachyon]

41. I think you are HORRIBLY wrong about that!

You know what I've been seeing (in the real world not here on democratic underground) is a lot of my democratic friends dont like Hilary and they dont like Obama either! Not that they would support McCainn but some have told me they wont vote period. I will vote for whoever we nominate but winning with either of our probably nominees will be REAL tough.

[Andrea]

65. That's right

I know many who won't vote. I don't know anyone who is willing to volunteer for either Obama or Clinton, including myself. I always volunteer for campaigns, but neither of these is worth the sacrifice. Nor will they get any of my money. Gore, on the other hand, would energize this party.

[Andrea]

64. You are really, really mistaken, but

the best way to prove this is national polling. When we start seeing polls coming out and asking people whether they would vote for Gore, you'll know that this is going to happen and you'll find out more accurate numbers of how many will vote for him.

[Andrea]

62. He's not the same person he was then.

He would run a campaign HIS WAY this time around. He would be much stronger. Plus, there are millions of Bush voters who would LOVE to have a chance to reverse their mistake this time around by voting for him.

[Lorien]

33. Well put DemocratInSoCal

and welcome to DU! :hi:

[KoKo]

21. I have hoped so long...but there's no way for him to get in, now.

The party will split over the two candidates...and until the Clintons are out of the way...he would never cross them...because he's an old school kind of "gentleman." Plus, he feels Obama needs his turn.

I can't cry any more over Gore... much as I would love him to find a way...the doors are closed. He's doing some good stuff now and who would want to be attacked the way Dems are attacked not only by McCorporate Media...but by our own DEMS...who kill each other off. It's happening now. He doesn't want that..

Thanks for your post, though. Always love to see anything about Gore.

Did you see my post about this incredible Video with HUMOR about Hillary and Obama posted on Current TV? A friend of mine sent it to me since I can't get Current. It's a great watch for a chuckle about what we are going through as Dems: Check it out...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4959579

[DemocratInSoCal]

24. Would You Vote For Him?

If his name was introduced as the nominee, would that bother you, and turn you against him?

Who would you vote for if he was the nominee in November, or would you just not vote for President then?

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

26. "open minds" INCLUDE respect for the man's decision to stay in his niche.

Why are you doing this?

LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!

LEAVE US ALONE!!!

Stop doing this,...it is cruel.

[DemocratInSoCal]

30. It Is Cruel?

I thought it was America.

That was SOOOOOOOOOO 1960.

[Lorien]

32. Er, I don't think that Gore is reading DU

and getting bent out of shape about it.

And I do think that he would love to take his rightful place as President, but the DLC probably told him that they had other plans. He knows how things work in the party far better than we do.

[DemocratInSoCal]

34. And Well They Should

I feel far more secure knowing that groups like the DLC are able to choose for me who to support, instead of complicating my life by adding someone qualified like Al Gore to the mix.

Instead, I will trust that they have my best interests at heart, and really have no hidden agenda. They're looking out for me, and if they are turning on Al Gore, I'm sure it's for my own good as an American, and nothing else.

:sarcasm:

[kath]

49. you got it, baby. All hail the almighty DLC!!

and the entities that really run this country - the corporations

[Pastiche423]

40. I'm dreaming of a brokered convention...

kinda like the one in '68.

[DesertRat]

42. Gore has always been my 1st choice

I think he could beat McCain in a landslide.

[Andrea]

66. Yep! Yep! A huge landslide! n/t

[Pastiche423]

44. This needs a little...

:kick:

[rosesaylavee]

45. K & R

Gore Bumper Sticker remains on my car until it goes to car heaven.

[zanne]

47. We have two good candidates right now.

Either Obama or Hillary would be a huge step up from what we have right now and four years ago, they would have seemed like a dream to us. The infighting here has made us lose perspective.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

48. proud to K and R

thanks for posting this compilation, lildreamer316 :hi:

[Deja Q]

50. He's also on Apple's board of directors; since 2003.

You'd think his cloud would have gotten Apple to change its tune long before Greenpeace had their hissy fit...

[Dinger]

53. Hoping, Wishing, Dreaming, Praying, Whatever It Takes

to make this happen.

[aikoaiko]

58. Nay.

[0007]

59. Thanks for confirming this dirt ball institution.

[annabanana]

63. Unlikely as it may be, , , ,

I would STILL drop everything to back a campaign of his.

[Andrea]

67. Me too

I'd work myself into the hospital for that - a chance to save this country.

[Andrea]

68. GREAT post, lildreamer

Thanks!!


:yourock:

[BuelahWitch]

70. This needs another

:kick:

[Pastiche423]

71. Early morning

:kick:

[MiniMe]

72. Talk about disenfranchising millions of voters

The Florida and Michigan primary votes are bad enough. Now you want to disenfranchise everybody who voted for a candidate that ws running?

I would love to see Gore as President, but not if he didn't run.

[olshak]

73. Look...

...we could do without the attacks on this topic. Any reasonable person would have concluded that Al is not going to run this fall.

I would welcome him as a candidate any day of the week. In my view, he is clearly superior (i.e., far more progressive) to both Obama and Clinton. Having said that, the scrutiny and abuse that Gore would suffer for avoiding the primary process would be suffocating. The Republicans and the Media would be unrelenting... in my view it is too late for him to change his mind, unless he were to run as an Independent, which I can't fathom him doing.

I don't think the times we live in allow for a third candidate to emerge as a "compromise" candidate. This battle will be resolved between Obama and Clinton, though the damage that can be done (within the party) in the meantime is frightening.

I suspect that if the Repugs win this November, he would in fact be the top candidate for 2012, assuming the nation and the planet live through another Repug administration.

So, it's a nice pipe dream, but I thinking you are reading too much into this. And it's a sad thing that Al Gore won't be our next president.

[mak3cats]

74. K & R - let's keep all our options open! (n/t)