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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:32 PM
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Bush to veto bill banning waterboarding
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 10:33 PM by marmar
from AP via Yahoo!:



Bush to veto bill banning waterboarding 1 hour, 4 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - The White House says President Bush will veto legislation on Saturday that would have barred the CIA from using waterboarding — a technique that simulates drowning — and other harsh interrogation methods on terror suspects.

Bush has said the bill would harm the government's ability to prevent future attacks. Supporters of the legislation argue that it preserves the United States' right to collect critical intelligence while boosting the country's moral standing abroad.

"The bill would take away one of the most valuable tools on the war on terror, the CIA program to detain and question key terrorist leaders and operatives," deputy White House press secretary Tony Fratto said Friday.

The bill would restrict the CIA to using only the 19 interrogation techniques listed in the Army field manual.

The legislation would bar the CIA from using waterboarding, sensory deprivation or other coercive methods to break a prisoner who refuses to answer questions. Those practices were banned by the military in 2006, but the president wants the harsh interrogation methods to be a part of the CIA's toolbox.

Backers of the legislation, which cleared the House in December and won Senate approval last month, say the interrogation methods used by the military are sufficient.

"President Bush's veto will be one of the most shameful acts of his presidency," Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said in a statement Friday. "Unless Congress overrides the veto, it will go down in history as a flagrant insult to the rule of law and a serious stain on the good name of America in the eyes of the world."

He noted that the Army field manual contends that harsh interrogation is a "poor technique that yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say what he thinks the (interrogator) wants to hear."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080308/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_torture


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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:37 PM
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1. Fuck that little dancing bastard.
Really.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:38 PM
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2. oh, this little POS is really pushing isn't he?
he is truly not a well man, he really needs to be reined in. I only hope the day comes when all his acts of crimes and cruelty to humanity catches up with him. :grr:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:43 PM
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3. How is he supposed to keep Amerika safe
if he and his pals can't act like the fucking Nazi's? Hmmmm?:argh:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:47 PM
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4. torture was banned when Bush entered office
Let's not pretend water-boarding isn't torture...which means water-boarding was banned when Bush entered office.

He didn't follow the law then did he?....his not signing this bill isn't the disgrace...that America tortures and refuses to acknowledge it tortures and refuses to hold the guilty accountable is the real disgrace. That's the serious stain...that's the flagrant insult to the rule of law



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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:50 PM
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5. And notice how he's vetoing it on Saturday....
I hate to say I hate anyone, but what I feel for this crew ain't nothin' but hate. :mad:


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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:55 PM
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6. "President Bush's veto will be one of the most shameful acts of his presidency"
Quite a statement considering all that insidious fucker has done. And you can bet, we don't know the half of what he and dickey boy have done.

Infuriating! :mad:
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:56 PM
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7. This could be good.
After they leave office. Bush and Cheney could be waterboarded into confessing thier roles as the true masterminds of 9/11. Then those confession could be used aginst them in court. THEN we do away with waterboarding.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:39 PM
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8. This veto should be overridden by Congress
:wtf:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:38 AM
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10. That will be the TIME for a massive public outcry
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:39 AM by SpiralHawk
Against the occult republicon torture Crusade...

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:19 AM
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9. kick in outrage
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