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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:28 PM
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I never knew this about the Guernica tapestry at the UN
Published on Sunday, February 9, 2003 by the Toronto Star

UNITED NATIONS—On the second floor of the United Nations building in Manhattan, just outside the Security Council entrance, hangs a seminal piece of 20th-century artwork that offers a graphic and chilling reminder of the horrors of war.

But as U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell sat down last week to deliver an historic speech about why America must go to war with Iraq, Pablo Picasso's Guernica was concealed by a large blue drape.

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The official reason Picasso's masterpiece was covered up? It hangs over the exact spot where Security Council members stop and speak before TV cameras. It was decided the violent anti-war images would not be the fitting backdrop for talk of a new war.

The best I can do for a link:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.visualresistance.org/wordpress/2006/03/01/visual-resistance-at-the-whitney-museum/&h=450&w=600&sz=79&hl=en&start=60&um=1&tbnid=WVzpeeLsozHw-M:&tbnh=101&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dguernica%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

What's Guernica?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_(painting)

Reminds me of Ashcroft covering up Lady Justice.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:31 PM
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1. I remember that from when it happened
It did not go down the memory hole.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:36 PM
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2. I was in Spain and saw the original, just two months before the Bush's attack on Iraq.
Edited on Sun Mar-09-08 06:39 PM by Tom Joad
It hangs at a museum in Madrid, Spain. It was one hell of an emotional experience looking at that.
Then i went to the Occupied West Bank. and saw war in action.

What hangs in the UN is a small copy.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0209-04.htm

The original is 23 feet wide(!!) and 11 feet tall.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:40 PM
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3. I saw it too -- at a massive Picasso exhibit: it's NOT a tapestry ...
But the whole notion of covering it up for a war announcement at the UN has just the right touch of (it's ok to use the phrase here, just not in a national televised town meeting Presidential debate like Kerry) Orwellian logic.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:46 PM
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5. check the Wiki
there is a tapestry of the painting at the UN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_%28painting%29
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:44 PM
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4. i used to go visit it at MOMA
back in the day. i had not known before that there was a tapestry at the UN.

the Wiki sez it was commissioned and donated by Nelson Rockefeller. (an interesting and complex figure of modern history. dracionian drug laws, bad; dying in the saddle, putatively good. i remember a weekend debauch in upstate NY the weekend before the Rockefeller Drug Laws went into place, during which we consumed as much of the house stash as we could.)

to conceal Guernica after what these sh!tbags have done in our world, is unfortunately par for the course.

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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 06:49 PM
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6. Very interesting about Colon Powell.
I saw the painting when it was on exhibit in 1979 or 1980 in NYC. Unbelievably moving and HUGE. K&R for this very interesting tidbit.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 07:35 PM
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7. I remember that. kinda like Ashcroft hiding the boobs on the Justice lady. nt
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:32 PM
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8. The Guernica
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:36 PM
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9. "Guernica" should have been the backdrop to Bush bus boy Alvaro Uribe's
"little guernica" last week in Ecuador, bombing a FARC guerrilla camp (with U.S. ordinance using U.S. surveillance) and slaughtering the chief FARC hostage negotiator, Raul Reyes (in talks with the Presidents of Ecuador, France and Venezuela for imminent release of Ingrid Betancourt and 12 others) in his sleep, along with 20+ others, including as many as ten Mexican students, apparently there to observe/participate in the hostage release.

Most were blown to bits. Colombian soldiers then entered Ecuador to pick off any survivors, in a turkey shoot of the wounded and panicked, shooting some in the back as they ran around in their underwear and pajamas trying not to die.

Picasso's "Guernica" is the quintessential anti-fascist painting, an ikon of every struggle of the poor and excluded, brutalized by the rich and powerful. The anti-Franco, anti-fascist forces in the Spanish civil war, like the FARC guerrillas, killed people in armed struggle for establishment of a more equitable and representative government. So did our own revolutionaries, for that matter. To Franco, they were "terrorists." To Picasso, they were heroes. To George III, ours were "rabble" with no legitimacy. To us, they are our revered Founders.

The Colombian civil war has been going on for 40+ years, and the last time there was promised peace, and the FARC guerrillas tried to go legit, enter the political process, organize, run for office and get elected, Colombian rightwing death squads murdered 400 elected FARC officials and thousands of their supporters and voters. And FARC returned to the jungle and took up arms again. Meanwhile, the carnage continues--according to all human rights groups, mostly committed by Colombian security forces and rightwing death squads with close ties to the Uribe government murdering thousands of union leaders, small peasant farmers, political leftists, human rights workers and journalists. It is a war on the left and on the innocent, who merely try to exercise their civil rights, not just on the armed guerrillas.

A more hopeful and promising peace process had just begun, this year, with FARC's unconditional release of six hostages, to Venezuela's President Chavez, who was initially asked by the Colombian government to undertake hostage negotiations. On the eve of the first hostage release, Uribe abruptly withdrew that invitation, and Colombian security forces fired on the party bringing the first two hostages to freedom--such intense fire that they were driven back into the jungle, and their release was delayed for some weeks.

Now we have seen Uribe's "little guernica"--and Picasso's all over again. The fascists killed the hope for peace in a 40+ year civil war, and the hope for a just and equitable government that protects workers and the poor, in Colombia. In the long term, they will lose. Meanwhile, the killing continues, propped up by $5 billion in military aid from U.S. taxpayers. We have to ask ourselves what the word "terrorist" means in this situation, and who are the "terrorists." Is armed conflict against an egregiously unjust government "terrorism"? And what of the greater toll, and the even worse horrors, inflicted by the Colombian military and paramilitaries--what of the chainsawing of union leaders with their body parts thrown into mass graves, and the thousands of tortures and deaths of innocent people? Is that not intended to terrorize the poor, as well as to simply exterminate them?

Guernica all over again--by this fascist dinosaur, Colombia, backed by the terrorists in our own government. Yeah, it is no wonder they hooded that painting, before "shock and awe" rained down on Iraq. It should be permanently covered with a cloth of mourning, until the Bush regime is gone, and the Uribe regime is gone, and good government is restored in both our countries. In Colombia, they shoot voters. Here, they steal our votes with "trade secret" vote counting software. The result is the same: dead soldiers, dead innocents, and the horror of unjust war.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 08:40 PM
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10. Might be of interest to others here: "The Design of Dissent"-a book I got for
valentines day.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:21 AM
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11. This is a fantastic article on the topic. I have spread it far and wide with the permission of B.W.
Artistic Sign Language: Symbols of the Coming Bush Fall
By Bernard Weiner
The Crisis Papers

Sign is symbol, symbol is sign. Consider:

*Powell goes to the United Nations so that the missile attacks on Baghdad and Basra can begin -- and, in the lobby of that grand building, Picasso's "Guernica" painting, which depicts the horrific results of the Nazi bombing of that Spanish town, is covered over prior to Powell's arrival. No use embarrassing the U.S. by reminding folks of what's in store for Iraqi civilians.

*Ashcroft, in his police-state zeal, begins shredding the Constitution's Bill of Rights with its guarantees of due-process of law, and, early on, has the huge lobby statue of the Goddess of Justice draped and covered over because of its exposed breast. How appropriate to shroud Justice so that she can't see what's being done in her name.

*First Lady Laura Bush cancels a poetry workshop at the White House because she suspects that a number of America's high-profile poets, in the sacred grounds of that seat of power, will raise the issue of the coming war with Iraq.

Did you notice the thread that unites these events? In all three cases, symbolic shrouds are placed over art, so that nobody will notice the bad things that are being done in American citizens' names.

But art knows. Art sees beyond, often before the general public is aware of what's going on. (Often before the artists themselves are conscious of what they're revealing.) Art points us in new directions that make us think and question.

To those inclined more to rigid-order mentality, art is a virus that needs to be stamped out, or, at the least, tightly controlled. ("When I hear the word culture," said Nazi leader Goebbels, "I reach for my revolver.")

It's all part of the so-called "cultural civil war." Those who control the signs and symbols control the polity. Thus, minions are trotted out to denounce artists and their tendency to look for complexity, ironies, hypocrisies, hidden humor. To incipient fascists, the world is a Manichean one, divided into black and white, those who are Good and those who are Evil ("You're either for us or against us").

And since they are certain that God obviously favors their side, it follows that those in opposition -- or even (or especially) those who point the way to other visions of complex reality -- are part of the enemy forces and must be dealt with.

One problem with authoritarianism -- whatever brand comes along: Stalin's communism, or Hitler's fascism, or Islamic Talibanism, or whatever we're moving into in America right now -- is that it makes art more delicious and tempting. The public is not dumb and eventually comes to figure out that the "truth" being propounded by the frightened rulers does not match the world most citizens actually live in. And so they begin to seek out and support art and artists and, most of all, comedians -- those sly artisans, those holy fools, that can shake the foundations of power with a well-aimed dart.

Musicians, playwrights, poets, painters, sculptors, dancers, novelists, filmmakers, online satirists, comics -- everything these artists do in an authoritarian society comes to be seen by the public in the light of the repression visited from above.

A story to illustrate this point: American avant-garde theater artist George Coates was invited to bring his visual extravaganzas to Poland during the dark times there. One of the huge slide projections used by Coates was of a manhole cover, which image covered the entire staging area. Various human forms emerged from the holes -- i.e., real actors came out of holes in the stage, but, given the projection, they appeared to be emerging from the holes in the manhole cover.

The audience took this in with rapt silence and then a few brave souls began clapping. Then waves and waves of applause and cheering washed over the actors. Coates was mystified by the audience reaction. Audiences in the U.S. loved this bit of theatrical magic, to be sure, but nothing like this Polish crowd.

After the show, various Polish theater artists came backstage to talk to Coates and his cast. They nudged Coates in the ribs and whispered their admiration for his willingness to confront the Polish Communist rulers by celebrating the "underground." Yes, what was merely an interesting use of a visual image for Coates was a cunning reference to the underground resistance of a budding Solidarity movement. After a few attempts at explaining himself, Coates simply smiled and nodded as the Poles heaped praise on his revolutionary "political" art.
Art has power. Art unmasks. Art tells lies in the service of truth. (Whereas governments lie in order to conceal truth.)

The more lies authoritarian governments tell their citizens, the more a sub rosa consciousness bubbles up from the culture's artists and then from its ordinary citizens. It's a slow-growing and, at times, dangerous movement -- which is why the forces of reaction try so hard to stomp on it -- but it is an amazingly strong and vital and resilient force.

Because totalitarian governments rest on fake foundations, when those regimes fall, they fall with amazing quickness and ferocity. One day there's a wall, the next day it's torn down and the celebrations begin. One day there is officially sanctioned art, the next day those huge statues are toppled. One day, the culture arbiters and censors are in control, the next day they are in disgrace -- or in jail.

Americans, still gripped by fear from 9/11, have tended to be in a state of animated numbness, putting up little resistance to the machinations of the authoritarian rulers. Similarly, out of great sympathy for the post-9/11United States, various nations around the world bowed to the wishes of the Bush government.

Bush&Co., meeting little resistance, interpreted this relative lack of opposition as full support for their programs, foreign and domestic. And so they've continued to want more, tighten the screws more, reach and then over-reach for more. Their motto and guiding principle seems to be: "We can't be stopped, so let's just go take it all."

Suddenly, though, Bush&Co. are running into overt opposition. Their allies abroad are telling them -- to their face -- that current American policies are mad, wrong, dangerous. More and more conservative allies at home are warning the Bush Administration that their dash toward imperial rule abroad and draconian Constitution-shredding at home is a violation of what America stands for, and will bring the United States (and, given the economic interweavings between nations, much of the world as well) nothing but disaster.

The current U.S. rulers will not alter their course. It's war with Iraq, full speed ahead and to hell with the rest of you -- especially ignorant "old Europe," and American dissidents at home. It's a proposed extension of the so-called USA Patriot Act, to give the federal government even more martial-law-like police powers in controlling the society -- the "cover" is hunting for terrorists, of course -- and to hell with the protections guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.

These Bush&Co. leaders are so arrogant, so rude, so greedy and power-hungry, so taken with themselves as God's mesengers and as the world's only Superpower, so convinced they are right in the tunnel-vision black-and-white world they inhabit, that it's clear their days are numbered. It may take a bit longer to build to critical mass -- and there is going to be death and destruction and persecution while that momentum is being built up -- but when the time for their fall arrives, it's going to be quick and nasty. And we'll finally all wake up from this nightmare that has crushed our economy, diminished our moral light in the world, disgraced our beloved Constitution and country.

And at the vanguard of this movement away from the shadow America and back into the light will be our our poets, our comedians, our painters, our playwrights, our novelists, and so on -- "dangerous" artists all, even when they're not political. They simply see too much, too clearly.

A toast to their hungry vision.
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Bernard Weiner, a Ph.D. in government & international relations, has taught at various universities, served as theater critic for the San Francisco Chronicle, and written widely for progressive journals. He is co-editor of The Crisis Papers (www.crisispapers.org).
(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:52 AM
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12. Ah yes, the powerhouse that is Guernica..
Learned the story of this when I was in high school, back in
the '60s. The multilayered tragedy evident in this continued
story is that schools do not teach art anymore, and so the
power of art as voice of the voiceless is not heard by the people
today, and into the future.

The only visual children understand today is television.
And most of what is represented there is transparent,
superficial, and commercial.

The same thing was done to the power of music.I was taught music in
classrooms, was taken to the symphony, had instrumental and vocal lessons,
but today children are not taught music (except to be cool in marching bands
or in rock groups), but there is little exposure to the arts in formal education.

Another loss of real education, another loss to economic disaster,
another brick in the wall...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:04 AM
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13. Yep, I remember that quite clearly
And now we could rename Guernica as Fallujah or Haditha or Abu Ghraib or Kama Aido. "Never Forget," my sweet Aunt Fanny.
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:52 AM
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14. When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

War is never a good idea.
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