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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:06 PM
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Tonight’s Bedtime Story… By Former US Attorney Edwin Meece
OK, now that I have your attention…. If you feel this is news worthy enough, please pass it on. I will probably get a lot of flack for this post…. Not from DU though. Truth needs to be out there.

In early 1986 a memo-directive came down from then US Attorney Ed Meece to all federal law enforcement agencies directing them to immediately begin stepping up seizures and forfeitures of suspect’s assets and anything else of value. I know because I was privy (by accident)to see it. Without getting into the real nuts and bolts of the wording, here is the meat of it and the snowball effect that came about that is still being felt to this day by the guilty and innocent.

In their wisdom, the DOJ came up with this plan to begin seizing any assets that could be taken and even forfeited before a defendant went to trial, or convicted of a crime. And assets meant anything of value. I once saw a bag of ruby’s confiscated, appraised and sold. One of the “red flags” that some of us began to see was the fact the government began having forfeiture hearings long before a guilty plea or trial. How did they condone this? Didn’t matter, they just did it.

Quick example, famous restaurateur Paul Palermo was arrested in 1986 on a reverse sting operation where he was actually sold multi-kilos of cocaine by DEA. He wasn’t even present when the actual deal went down. But, he had driven his mint condition 1984 Mercedes convertible coupe to a meeting with the CI the day before. Agents seized his car right out from under him on I-95 and took his Rolex watch to because during negotiations he was asked what time he thought he could meet. Of course, Palermo looked at his Rolex to see what time it was. Three months later they auctioned off the car and watch after a judge signed off at the forfeiture hearing before the case went to court. One year later, and before trial, all charges were dropped against Palermo because of gross government misconduct. But, to bad his car and watch were gone.

The AG’s thoughts were not just to hit the criminals in the pocketbook as a deterrent and punishment. No, we were also allowed to keep some property such as cars, boats, planes, jewelry etc. And we could also divvy it up to the locals who were members of the joint task forces. At one point, it became so bad that we were even allowed to “negotiate” with criminals who did not have enough cash on hand to buy drugs, guns or other illegal items so we actually started (your going to love this) accepting collateral. Car titles, deeds to homes, and even IOU’s. I know at this point you think I’m full of sh…. But I assure you not. Nor am I a disgruntled employee. Im happily retired and have a lucrative retiree job (not with the gov)

One quick example. Roy Jones of Miami Florida had $5,000 cash to his name and a dream to be a big time pot smuggler. Well, five grand wont get you much pot, even if you go to Jamaica and buy it direct. So, when agents discovered Roy did not have the $70,000 needed, he should have been spanked on the ass and ran out of town and told never to do this again. But, after a few phone calls, Roy was asked if he had any collateral he could put up to secure the difference of the cash needed. He did have a van, panel truck, home and a small 4 door older Mercedes that he would be willing to put up. So, Roy and a CI went back to Miami and returned with the van, truck, notarized letter putting up his home and title for the Mercedes.

Cops busted Roy at a local Holiday Inn after accepting the $5000 and letter of collateral. Now the funny part, the agents went to seize everything Roy had put up as security only to find that the van and panel truck were lease vehicles. The home was being rented, the Mercedes was rusted out and on blocks and the $5,000 belonged to Roy’s father so they also had to give that back.

Once we had a wanna be pilot & smuggler who had a connection in Jamaica for pot but no way to get there. Unfortunately, the feds could not let one of their own planes leave the country just for pot. So, we stole him an airplane, put a transponder on it to track him and gave him the go ahead. He did not go, said something did not feel right.

With out making this any longer then necessary to get my point across I just want to say that I hope you get the idea and the seriousness of just how out of control this has all become.

And I will close with the WORST part of this whole deplorable mess. Ed Meece also approved and instigated a payment incentive to all informants who were instrumental in any assets seized from any and all cases informants were involved in. Up to 25% of the value recovered and or forfeited as long as that CI agreed to testify and did not rock the boat. In essence, this put a bounty on every Americans head.

There is a really great book (and this is not a plug for this guy, it’s a great book) that goes into depth of the inner workings of how things described above occurred and the effects on everyone. The book is titled “Creative Impulse” and a link is below. The author only meant to write about his own personal life and problems, but, when it was finished, the storyline detailed government corruption and a rude awakening to people just how things really were when he worked for the government.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/102-9400739-0131345?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jack+swint

http://www.jackswint.com
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pwdgroup Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:46 PM
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1. All I can Say Is WOW
its finally in B&W
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 07:52 PM
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2. Do you mean Edwin MEESE? 'Cause spelling someone's name correctly makes a big difference
when you try to do research.

Just sayin'...

sw
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:59 PM
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4. I stand corrected... Meese
Yes it is Meese... good catch, my bad. Been twenty some years.:wtf:

Thanks!!
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 08:37 PM
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3. I once read about
a vice squad that needed cash so they planted pot on a guys million dollar ranch, then busted into his house and in the scuffle he ended up dead.

The ranch was sold and nobody was the wiser till years later when one of the cops admitted everything.

I'm sure it's not that isolated an occurrence.

Welcome to DU formerfed. :hi:
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:19 AM
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6. Thousands of cases just like this
There are cases like this still happening everyday. They do not make the news much anymore because it is so common, and no longer newsworthy. Maybe it has become acceptable behavior.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:13 PM
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5. Living in the middle of the former hemp capital, I saw a lot of farmers
fearful of their property being seized because some county mountie found some wild hemp growing on their property. I had a friend nearly lose his farm because of the seizure laws. They were able to show it was not cultivated and that it was what was left over from the hemp farms. The guy is of impeccable character and the local cops would have had to duck and run if they messed with this young farmer.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:29 AM
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7. Just like the Germans robbing the Jews after trumped up charges
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pwdgroup Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:41 AM
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8. Here's what REALLY SUCKS and pay attention to the wording
The next to last paragraph of this post is VERY SCARY.... And I believe it completely. There is a bounty on everyones head...

"And I will close with the WORST part of this whole deplorable mess. Ed Meece also approved and instigated a payment incentive to all informants who were instrumental in any assets seized from any and all cases informants were involved in. Up to 25% of the value recovered and or forfeited as long as that CI agreed to testify and did not rock the boat. In essence, this put a bounty on every Americans head."

:hide:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:17 AM
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9. This happened to someone I know not very long ago
They seized all his assets and completely ruined his life and I'm not sure they are even continuing with a case against him. I don't know all the details, but I know he was left with absolutely nothing and he can't put anything in his name because the government will either take it or attach it.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:31 PM
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10. I hates that Meeses to pieces...
Asset forfeiture is theft, plain and simple.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:59 PM
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11. Louisiana is particularly bad for this.
People I know down there have told me about people they knew, even wealthy business people, who have been ripped off for hundreds of thousands of dollars while they were "investigated" and eventually let go.
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formerfed Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:23 PM
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12. This Is Why Congress-Senate or someone needs to investigate
This is why they need to hold new hearings to put a stop to the "way it was" or "its always been that way" attitude.

These bandits are not Robin Hood.....
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