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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:09 PM
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NYT Details of the Spitzer Inquiry (Not flattering to Spitzer or comforting to conspiracy theorists)
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 11:10 PM by BurtWorm
Take it for what it's worth. According to the story, the investigation started when the IRS wanted to know why Spitzer was depositing thousands of dollars in the bank accounts of corporations typically fronting laundering operations.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/nyregion/11inquire.html?hp=&pagewanted=all

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The investigators working out of the three-story office building, which faces Veterans Highway, typically review such reports, the officials said. But this was not typical: transactions by a governor who appeared to be trying to conceal the source, destination or purpose of the movement of thousands of dollars in cash, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The money ended up in the bank accounts of what appeared to be shell companies, corporations that essentially had no real business.

The transactions, officials said, suggested possible financial crimes — maybe bribery, political corruption, or something inappropriate involving campaign finance. Prostitution, they said, was the furthest thing from the minds of the investigators.

Soon, the I.R.S. agents, from the agency’s Criminal Investigation Division, were working with F.B.I. agents and federal prosecutors from Manhattan who specialize in political corruption.

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Then, with the assistance of a confidential informant, a young woman who had worked previously as a prostitute for the Emperor’s Club V.I.P., the escort service that Mr. Spitzer was believed to be using, the investigators were able to get a judge to approve wiretaps on the cellphones of some of those suspected of involvement in the escort service.

The wiretaps, along with the records of bank accounts held in the names of the shell companies, revealed a world of prostitutes catering to wealthy men. At the center was the Emperor’s Club, which arranged “dates” with more than 50 beautiful young women in New York, Paris, London, Miami and Washington.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:12 PM
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1. I don't imagine it would be so for either of those groups of people.
What a disappointing disaster, right there.

Redtone
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:15 PM
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2. K&R
It is what it is. Another slimey politician thinking he can get away with what the rest of us cannot.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:28 PM
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3. kick
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:37 PM
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4. You mean patriots who want to know what is going on
in their country by the criminals who run it?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:43 PM
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5. Sure. That's what I mean.
Patriots for Procurers.

:patriot:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:17 AM
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6. And we're talking about a former DA . . . an investigator . . . !!!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:35 AM
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7. Argghh! I want to wring his neck or smack him upside the head!
That's some shady stuff he pulled. What a dumbass!

I remember reading articles about him several years ago in various magazines and he sounded like the real deal. This is a real disappointment.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 12:41 AM
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8. i think he was/is the real deal
when it comes to protecting the people against corrupt business practices.

that's what makes this so disappointing and frustrating.

and the thought he might go to prison for this and just how the whole thing will play out in the media. and then he has 3 daughters. what they are going through and how he might miss oout on some years of their life and they will all be in college when he gets out.
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:43 AM
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16. Just don't offer to smack his ass
He might like that a little too much........
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:15 AM
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21. I kept hoping yesterday his wife would backhand him one
:eyes:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:31 AM
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22. I Thought he was the real deal. And ready to be president of the US.
Spitzer was plain stupid. What an idiot!! He flushed himself down the toilet.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:20 AM
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9. kick
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:28 AM
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10. K&R
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FreeJoe Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:35 AM
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11. Good Riddance
One of the biggest reasons that I switched to be being a Democrat was the fear of Republican's abuse of powers. Spitzer was another abuser. He did it for good causes, but he was still way outside my comfort zone as an AG.

It's sad to see a person's life ruined, especially by stupid personal mistakes. Still, I'm glad that he and his "ends justify any means" approach will no longer be a power in our party.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:59 AM
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24. I agree he went too far
He was obsessive, willing to do anything, to get what he wanted. He irony is that he went after people's private lives to fight public corruption. He was insane with power.

Huh. Exactly the type personality to get himself involved with something like this.

I am certainly glad he was caught.

Hypocrites like this don't really deserve sympathy. His family has my sympathy.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:41 AM
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12. I think it was done to kill the abortion rights bill he was promoting.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:44 AM
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28. he ordered up a hooker from NY to kill an abortion bill?
Put down the bong.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:07 AM
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13. It makes you wonder who the other nine guys were.
What a terrible waste. I guess you don't wake up one morning and think, today I'm going to do something so stupid, it's going to ruin my career and hurt my family horribly. :(
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:27 AM
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14. And incidentally hurt the Democratic Party in New York, hurt New York
It seems like there are good reasons to be angry with Spitzer regardless of party affiliation. I think Dems have more reason to be angry than Repubs though.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:31 AM
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15. New York state seems to be sort of a mess.
A former AG was on the Squawk Box rattling off the titles of former state officials in jail and current ones who are charged with crimes. At least six of them. She didn't cite party affiliations, though.

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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:46 AM
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18. Sadly
we are a bit of a mess right now, and I think that is why this angers us so much. It's such an abuse of his power, and for those of us who supported him during his election, it feels like a slap in the face. It's so disappointing, especially when we put so much hope into him. :(
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:48 AM
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23. It is almost hopelessly corrupt. Politics is totally money-driven here.
You get what you pay for from this fucking state.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:46 AM
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17. Well, there you go. Concern over domestic spying = "conspiracy theorist"...
You got me.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:51 AM
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19. So, the feds misrepresented what they really wanted the warrants for?
Did the feds tell the court they wanted the warrants to investigate the escort service when, in fact, they were going after Spitzer on a widely speculative suspicion?

Is that what I am reading here?

:shrug:
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:14 AM
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20. Spitzer may have been funding NY Dem takeover
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:35 AM
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25. Your points are very well taken.
I still think Spitzer should get out of the way. But I see what you mean by suspicious timing.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:39 AM
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26. We ahve had our own troubles here in CT but Spitzer's was worse
That what Roland did. Everyone knew Roland was a prick and corrupt before he even got in office. But Spitzer falling from grace is extremely dissapointing.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:41 AM
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27. This Raises MORE Questions About How & Why The Feds Got Involved
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:35 PM
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30. Great link.
Because frankly, that suggests a return to the bad old days where one of the major activities of the FBI was gathering dirt on every politician in Washington (not to mention civil rights leaders and others who had somehow run afoul of J. Edgar Hoover), which was then used to intimidate them politically. And that's much more disturbing to me than Elliot Spitzer's tawdry, and apparently very expensive, personal life.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:03 PM
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29. So the prostitution wiretapping started AFTER Spitzer's bank records were scrutinized, not
BEFORE?

This article makes me wonder whether the IRS was monitoring a list of prominent Democratic politicians (excluding most Republicans), or whether it was monitoring a list of shell corporations of undetermined ppolitical leanings, or both.

It also makes me wonder whether every lead uncovered on a Republican pol doing the same thing as Spitzer was dropped, for fear the Bush/Gonzales/Rove Justice Dept would fire prosecutors as they have in the past for political reasons.
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