Using the WTO are the Europeans trying to steal our jobs?

[mac2]

Airbus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus a EU manufacturer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus#World_Trade_Organization_litigation For security reasons we have to get out of the WTO. Europe wants to dominate and win all the jobs.

Congress you are not protecting our jobs and security. I don't see any American jobs on the list do you?

[BearSquirrel2]

1. Europe isn't the problem ...

We can compete on a cost basis with the Euros. In fact, we have lower standards of living than they do so if anyone would bitch about lower wages, it would be they.

We have to worry about the likes of China and Mexico with virtually nonexistent labor and environmental standards.

Ultimately, I'm not concerned about the air tanker deal since the Euros buy a lot of American military hardware. I think our guys should have the best equipment available.

[mac2]

3. We never win a WTO deal against the EU...

Does that not make you wonder what is going on? They win. We lose.

Who do you think are buying up our Common Wealth (energy, oil, gold, highways, etc.).

We go to war and BP gets that oil and ours. They don't pay royalties for any of it. They pollute and don't give a dam.

[melody]

5. Oooh, you told the truth about all that -- you're a braver person than I am, Gunga Din

Prepare to be pelted by people who don't know.

[Captain Angry]

2. There are better arguments.

1: That data is 15 months old.
2: A paragraph above it, it talks about the subsidy that Boeing gets from US states and companies. Much like Airbus gets in Europe.

The WTO isn't the problem here.

This was one contract, where the company from the United States offered an inferior product. Granted those requirements changed late in the process.

But to the major point you've made, no Congress isn't doing a whole lot to spur new industry in the United States. We're pouring money in a hole for Iraq/Afghanistan, we could be working on truly improving education across the country. When schools can only generate revenue from local taxes, it ensures that poor neighborhoods can not compete.

My job headed for India in 2006. If I were French or Japanese, the local laws would have made it very difficult to move my job out of the country. In the USA, there are tax benefits for doing it.

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. How does one "steal" a job?

:shrug:

[mac2]

6. Lots of out of work Americans can tell you how.

They move the company with its markets, patents, technology, etc. to another country. The employees and community are outta luck.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. You are not owed a job in a capitalist economy

For about 40 years, there was a detente between the capitalist class and labor that created this illusion. It was a temporary detente to ward off the threat of real global labor organization. It is over. In capitalism, your job lasts as long as you are the lowest bidder in selling your labor power. As soon as that's no longer true, it makes sense for the buyer to go elsewhere. If you don't like that principle, then you don't like capitalism. Which is fine with me. But the phony state of affairs in which workers thought they were owed jobs is over, and maybe that's a good thing.

[DavidDvorkin]

8. We stole a lot of European jobs 100 years ago and more

It's an old historical cycle.