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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:19 PM
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The REAL difference between Dems and Pukes: Spitzer -VS- Craig
Spitzer Mulls Resignation While Craig Fights On

While the political world is riveted by the Eliot Spitzer drama and the question of whether he will resign his governorship, similarly scandal-tarred Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho.) is still in Congress, still doing his work and still fighting to overturn his guilty plea.

Craig's attorneys filed papers today with the Minnesota state Court of Appeals making their argument for a reversal of a lower court's decision to let Craig's guilty plea to disorderly conduct charges stand. Craig made the guilty plea after being arrested last year by an undercover cop in a Minneapolis-St. Paul airport bathroom for allegedly using hand and foot signals to indicate he wanted sex.

The Hennepin County District Court rejected Craig's attempt to withdraw his guilty plea last October. In January, Craig tried again with the state court of appeals, and today's filing represents yet another effort to get the earlier ruling reversed. The AP reports Craig's lawyers are repeating many of the same arguments they've made before, primarily that his original plea represented a "manifest injustice" that needs correcting.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2008/03/larry_craig_still_fighting.html?hpid=topnews

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Really says something doesn't it..and Craig's not the only repuke to remain on the job after something like this..

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:20 PM
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1. Misdemeanor versus felony. There isn't much comparison.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:21 PM
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2. that's not the point...
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 07:23 PM by goodboy
It's about taking responsibility..

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:24 PM
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3. Okay. If that's your point, I'm with you 100%
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:26 PM
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5. I'm just sayin' that in situations like these, you'll see
Repukes blaming everyone but themselves, and denying responsibility for everything WITH the blessing of party leaders...and it seems to me that Dems hold their own accountable..

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:50 PM
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10. Agreed.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:26 PM
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4. Has Spitz resigned yet?
Craig mulled it over too, and he didn't get a lot of GOP support either.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:27 PM
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6. you don't hear any pukes calling for Craig's resignation...
business as usual on the hill.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:29 PM
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7. Spitzer's life is ruined by this.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:35 PM
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8. The media sure is giving David Vitter a free pass on this...
And why isn't the DOJ investigating how he paid his prostitutes?

This is a total Republican DOJ witchhunt, typical of what Bush's DOJ does by perverting justice for political gain daily.

Rp
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:38 PM
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9. VITTER...I couldn't remember his name...remember this Salon piece?
"Forcing Larry Craig's resignation while embracing David Vitter

(updated below - Update II)

When Hugh Hewitt admitted that he wants Larry Craig to resign but does not want the adulterous, serial-prostitute-hiring David Vitter to do so, he was subjected to ridicule and scorn from many different corners -- on the ground that this inconsistency is obviously attributable both to anti-gay animus and rank political self-interest (Vitter's replacement would be chosen by a Democratic Governor, whereas Craig's would be chosen by a right-wing GOP Governor). Even some right-wing blogs noted the absurdity of that position: "Hugh Hewitt wants Craig to resign immediately but David Vitter to stay on. Huh?"

Yet that contradictory and nakedly unprincipled posture has now become the official position of the GOP leadership, led by its pious "moral values" wing. A whole slew of very upstanding Family Values Senators are parading around making a flamboyant showing of pressuring Larry Craig to resign (knowing that it will entail no political cost), all while remaining completely silent about David Vitter's at least equally "undignified" and confessed adultery and lawbreaking (acts which, just like Craig, he concealed from his family and colleagues in the Senate until he had no choice). "

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/08/30/craig_vitter/index.html
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:04 PM
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11. Wrong Is Wrong...PERIOD
Yes, its wrong that Vitter and Craig still sit in the Senate and it speaks a lot for the craven need of the GOOPs to hold onto their shrinking power. Not only do they tolerate these goons, but there Renzi facing multiple counts and he's Gramps Arizona campaign manager. But because they're hypocrites doesn't mean Democrats should try to justify when one of theirs is caught in a similar scandal or play the schoolyard "they did it, too" game.

The ultimate judges for both Vitter and Craig will be the folks of their respective states. Their crimes aren't near the level of what it appears Spitzer has done, and some proportionality should be brought into this. There's no plausible deniability here or any equivelent. If anything its how we handle this that could be the silver lining...if Democrats stand up to what Spitzer has done rather than stick our heads in the sand, it shows we take running the government and maintaining the people's trust better.
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