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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:24 PM
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David Paterson is where he is because he is blind
according to Geraldine Ferraro's thinking. Or is that because he is BLACK and BLIND?

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:25 PM
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So is Silda. Ba-dum-BUMP.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:25 PM
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lol
Touche!
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:25 PM
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1. Actually, he's Basil Patterson's son. Didn't you know that? n/t
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:44 PM
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12. And that has meaning because?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:45 PM
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13. A long time Harlem politician..
From Wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Paterson

Basil Alexander Paterson is a longtime political leader in New York and Harlem. He is the second African American to be the nominee of a major party for statewide office in New York. (Edward R. Dudley, the Democratic nominee for attorney general of New York in 1962, was the first.)

Secretary Paterson became involved in Democratic politics in Harlem in the 1950s and 1960s. Along with former New York Mayor David Dinkins, former Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton, and Congressman Charles Rangel, Secretary Paterson has been a leader of the "Harlem Clubhouse." The Clubhouse has dominated Harlem politics since the 1960s.

During the 1960s, Secretary Paterson served as a state senator representing Harlem. He gave up his Senate seat in 1970 to run for lieutenant governor, as the running mate of former U.S. Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg. The Goldberg/Paterson ticket lost to the Republican ticket of Gov. Nelson Rockefeller and Lt. Gov. Malcolm Wilson.

In 1978, Paterson was appointed as a Deputy Mayor of New York City by Mayor Ed Koch. He stepped down as deputy mayor in 1979, when he was appointed by Gov. Hugh Carey as New York Secretary of State. He was the first African American to serve as secretary of state in New York history. He served as secretary of state until the end of the Carey Administration in 1983.

Secretary Paterson is the father of New York Lieutenant Governor David Paterson, who was elected to the lieutenant governorship on Nov. 7, 2006 on a ticket with Gov. Eliot Spitzer. Lieutenant Governor Paterson held his father's Senate seat for two decades and served as minority leader of the Senate. With Spitzer's resignation following a prostitution scandal, David will become New York's first African-American governor, and the fourth in U.S. history, on Monday, March 17th, 2008.

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:53 PM
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17. And blind...Jewish also?
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 12:58 PM by mac2
A long history of public office and politics is not impressive to me. What have they done with their power? First Afro-American this or that?

I wish everyone would stop saying the first this or that is so wonderful (women, race, religion, etc.). What are their politics, morals, and commitment to save our democracy for "We the people". We have/had a first Afro-American Secretary of State in Powell and then a Afro-Amerian women...Rice. How did that help any Afro-American or our democracy?

I ain't so grand or historic when we have no democracy for future generations regardless of their "first" to be this or that. Corruption so rampant we can't run our society...it will be lawless. Regardless of race we will all be slaves under tyrannical leaders. It's happening all over the world...brown, black, yellow, or white leaders.

Get over yourselves.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:32 PM
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30. Sorry. I thought you wanted to know who Basil Paterson was.
I cut and pasted a bio of the man.

Maybe you need to get over yourself.

:wtf:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:57 PM
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33. Am I impressed with who Basil Paterson is?
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 03:05 PM by mac2
Outside NY State no one knows who he is. And by the bio I still have little idea.

What is the new governor about politically is what I asked? Offices held through many administrations by a family may be good or bad I don't know.

Thanks for the information about how important this political family is to Harlem...or at least to you.

I was born and raised in an another part of NY State. I moved away after marriage and was shocked when I returned to Western NY to see how far it had fallen since Gov. Patacki. How will they find their way back with the Brits, Canadians, etc. buying all their recources, etc.? Patacki and the NY State Republicans should serve jail time.

What is Paterson's plan to change that?

I know Spitzer gave money for education but refused to open investigations regarding the false 911 government stories. He had some Wall Street investigations also. Those should be continued by the new governor and staff because our once safest financial system and stock market are very corrupt. Our system not respected or trusted by the world investors.

We have many miles to go regardless of race (not that race isn't a huge problem in America).
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 03:45 PM
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39. Rather than wasting bandwidth posting snark, why didn't you just
come out ask what his poicies will be after taking over for Spitzer. Maybe you should get off your ass and do some research rather than making snarky comments on an internet board.

I do agree that the governor and his staff should be pursuing financial flim-flammery on Wall Street. Also, the federal government (i.e. the Justice Department) should also be investigating this rather than whether or not Spitzer had a prostitute.

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 04:27 PM
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42. I did ask that question madinmaryland.
I am trying to find out about the new governor but you tell me about his father and family. You insult me when I say it wasn't much at all about the political agenda of the new govenor but about who served under who in a long line of politicans.

You are a rude person...snarky comments was not what my post was about.

I spent my life in research so I do know how to do it on the Internet. It won't be from this source however.

Maybe a New Yorker Democrat can tell me more about Paterson's political policy and agenda.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:51 PM
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15. There are many forms of affirmative action. David did not get to
where he is today on his merits alone. So, to use him as an example of an African American who didn't benefit from privilege is ignorant.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:25 PM
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2. oh please.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:27 PM
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I know nothing at all about Paterson but think it would be poetic justice if he
turns out to be one of our best governors ever!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:30 PM
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4. he just might be.. He has to have patience by the boatload
Nothing came easily for him, and I'll bet he does a fine job..
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:35 PM
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9. Only one enjoying this is Joe Bruno (R)
It serves to make him stronger. Nancy Pelosi....you watching? My best wishes to David Patterson, he's a good man and will need all the help he can get, as NY is in the middle of a budget crisis. Would he be were he is today if not for Spitzer's failings? No. Carl Mc Call, who was a very fine man, was beaten pretty badly by George Pataki. But given Patterson's background, I think he is up to the job & I will be proud to call him my governor. But you have to know, republicans are going to give him a hard time, which is unfortunate.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:47 PM
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14. What else is new?
The Republicans are out to destroy every Democratic leader and Attorney General. They are out to hide their criminal activity.

Any Democrat wanting to run for public office (or in office) had better watch their back.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:17 PM
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24. Frustrates me no end that they are aided and abetted by
The Democratic leaders themselves.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 03:29 PM
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35. They don't stick up for any of their fellow Democrats asking
the hard questions or challenging the obvious dirty tricks and law breaking by political enemies.

Nancy Pelosi once said, Democrats can't agree together because they all have different views. Well...if that is true why are they in the party? And why does she let them vote with Republicans on important policy against our Constitution and Bill of Rights? Where is her oath of office to support and defend against all enemies "our contract with the American government" ("our" meaning we the people) being our Constitution and Bill of Rigts?
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:36 PM
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10. I think the principal thing to know about Paterson is...
he is the former NYS Senate minority leader. From the evidence over the last year Gov. Spitzer failed to use Lt. Gov. Pateson's contacts and experience.

Hope the state's Democratic party can recover before the fall elections.

The biggest thing about this stupid scandal is it gives Bruno ammunition and cover.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 03:14 PM
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34. Yes...and don't you see the connection to what just happended
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 03:17 PM by mac2
so they could win in November? The Republicans were going to lose big in November but now this "sex" thing with Spitzer.

I wonder who planned it near the "selection" our Democratic Neo Cons or theirs (Rove, etc.)? In the end the RW Neo Cons always win.

Between the "selected" candidates who can't win, computer voter fraud, and scandals just prior to the election...things are staked against wining back our democracy. Fraud and corruption goes deeper and more wide spread.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 04:30 PM
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43. Yes...you see the motivation.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:27 PM
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3. One might say Patterson will be where he will be Monday
because Spitzer really liked to fuck women not his wife.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:42 PM
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11. Defending your religious group with my tax dollars?
I don't think so.
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selador Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:30 PM
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5. he's blind
thus, everything is BLACK to him.

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:32 PM
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6. Go with BLACK and BLIND...
Nice alliteration!
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:52 PM
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16. And your daddy runs the Harlem Democratic machine. Please, give me a break
There was lots of African American kids who deserve your sympathy. David isn't one of 'em, whatever his disabilities.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:02 PM
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18. That wasn't meant to be a serious suggestion. :)
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:06 PM
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19. We're cool. It's just a bad day when the Hunting of the Governor becomes our
blood sport.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:16 PM
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23. I know - that's why I was joking...
Good thing many posters here are also volunteers for candidates or causes ~ the real world actually makes sense in comparison! :)
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:22 PM
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26. In the real world, I'm happy for the Harlem machine. As clubs go,
they seem to function well. Spitzer disappointed us long ago and he never took to what it takes to get things done. His loss will mean little, except for the worst it's brought out in us.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 03:31 PM
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36. He did more than Patacki
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 04:01 PM
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40. That's a low bar to set ... but granted. Again, I wish our new governor the best n/t
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:32 PM
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7. The Lucky Bastard
shit how come these blind black guys get everything handed to them?
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 03:33 PM
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38. The elite few do but not the rest.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 12:32 PM
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8. STOP, please
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:09 PM
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20. They'll never stop
They are Obama supporters, they are bullies, they make me ashamed to be a dem. I have never seen anything like this is my life. It's like Obama has become Bush, and his supporters have become those Bush supporters that we always made fun of. It is so odd and sad.

zalinda
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:40 PM
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32. hear hear
It is just awful. Stunning, isn't it?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:13 PM
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21. You can't just say it out loud like that
Geraldine would say, "There is no way David Paterson would be where he is if he were sighted." :eyes:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:14 PM
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22. And he's LUCKY, don't forget lucky.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:19 PM
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25. If your daddy handed out political favors and jobs, you'd be lucky too
No matter your ethnicity
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:24 PM
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27. Gee, and here I thought he won an election as Lt Governor
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:33 PM
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31. I know ... that's what privilege gets you. Accident of birth ain't always bad n/t
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 03:33 PM
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37. Don't quote Carter as loving children.
He had his own monster while in office.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 04:33 PM
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45. Here in Illinois the Lt. Governor usually is a shirt tail
position sailing in with the governor during the election. I assume that is still true in NY State.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:27 PM
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28. Did you just blow past the "Stop and think about where this should be posted" sign
on your way in here? Go the Hell Away. And I say this as a supporter of neither self inflated candidate.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:27 PM
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29. Handicapped people get all the lucky breaks.
I wish I were blind.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 04:19 PM
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41. Many Americans are not legally blind but blind to the truth.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 04:32 PM
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44. If he's blind, how does he know he's black?
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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