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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:42 PM Original message |
You, my fellow DU'er, have probably broken the law - and will be punished for it (maybe) |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah, it's too much to ask. (Speaking facetiously) |
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tachyon (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Traffic citations are just revenue devices...they have nothing to do with public safety. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Playing devil's advocate... |
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tachyon (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. The -reason- for most of them is -because- they are so easily violated, thus making them |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. But is the rationale for a law being in place... |
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tachyon (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. The two upshots aren't necessarily mutually exclusive...but the preponderance of "speed traps" |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. No, the threat of punishment is not a deterrent. nt. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:15 PM Original message |
Would you care to expand on that a little bit? eom |
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tachyon (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. I know you weren't asking -me- but I've studied at some depth the relation between |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I agree with you that the death penalty is not a deterrent to capital crimes... |
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tachyon (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Well, punishment in death penalty cases actually is very effective in preventing |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Well, that's true on the face. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. Legal punishment is a deterrant to me (and I don't think I am unique). |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Research shows that you are in the minority. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. the threat of consequences(being maimed or killed) is what slows most people down |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. A question, then... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. the fatality rate would probably change very little. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Just out of curiosity... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-17-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Check the National Motorists' Association website |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Absolutely correct, and a whole bunch of convenient excuses |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. We don't have a Justice System anymore. |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think we've locked up the wrong 1% n/t |
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Mind_your_head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. That's a DUzy, imo |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. I see your point, and I agree with it wholeheartedly on an emotional level, though I think... |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Indeed, but |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I agree with that. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. You and I are subject to a different set of laws than the government |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. I have had the "traffic wilies" too...and I have no outstanding issues... |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. You offer food for thought and a whole new post :) |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Ya...they aren't scared much, are they? |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
38. Law Enforcement worries about the wrong things |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. I assume my presence here has doomed me already |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. Forgive me, but you're really missing the obvious solution |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. I think about this all the time. All the burden is on us - taxes and obeying laws. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. Your posts are excellent. I agree with them entirely. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. Asking the dems to hold bush accountable |
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TML (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. It is too much to ask |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Welcome to DU! |
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TML (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Not if I didn't break any laws |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Uh... |
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TML (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. No worries |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
30. Straight Story; I don't know your situation... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
31. Yes. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
32. Don't know whether applauds are in order but VA pols made it clear why they raised ticket fees |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. That and the fact that Albo is an attorney whose practice is primarily |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. "Make a law, make a business." Old New Jersey street saying |
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quadriga (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
34. Yeah and Cheney get's his 20th quadruple by-pass |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
39. I believe that some European cities have eliminated traffic laws |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-16-08 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
40. flout=thumb one's nose at the law. flaunt=show something off. |
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