NYT Iraq editorials - THEY STILL DON'T GET IT!

[NRaleighLiberal]

Story after story written by this or that so called expert now admit that we were misled/the effort was mismanaged/underestimated - all sorts of this and that excuse. Most or all hint at the same reasoning - we are where we are, we need to look forward, it is already broken, we need to focus on the fix, etc.

But what few if any of them recognize is the flawed reasoning in this. WE MUST LOOK BACK because the architects for the flawed reasoning, the lies, the misdeed are STILL THERE. They must be rooted out, impeached, imprisoned, sent out of office - or the failings of the past will just be recreated again and again in our future.

Why doesn't anyone seem to get this simple point? History is important because we can learn from it. We can avoid past mistakes.

But people do not like to take the time to review, learn, incorporate those learnings. They think they know better, they move impulsively and recklessly forward into the same traps.

[elizfeelinggreat]

1. mirrors

If they look back they'll be looking in the mirror, can't have that. ;)

[G_j]

2. sort of like trusting

the Nazis to "fix" Poland.

[cornermouse]

3. Vietnam Deja vu.

Too many didn't learn anything.

[acmavm]

4. I posted earlier in another thread the simple truth that they supported this

administration, they covered up for it, they lied for it.

They have a lot of gall to claim any moral high ground now.

[gratuitous]

6. Maybe they forgot they employed Judith Miller?

But we sure as shit haven't forgotten.

[acmavm]

8. They see the meltdown of the republican that's going on and they know

they'd better make it look like they never had anything to do with the mess that we're in now.

Rats/ship/sinking...

[gratuitous]

9. Five years from now . . .

I hope to hear Dr. Phil asking them, "So, how's that working out for ya there, Times?"

They have a lot of work to do, and even more to undo. I still clench my jaw whenever I think of Miller's (the self-proclaimed Queen of all Fucking Iraq") credulous reporting, rushing to write up every tidbit, no matter how ludicrous. And her editors putting it into print without a second thought. Particularly that ridiculous story about the guy in a baseball cap, whom Miller never spoke to, walking back and forth several dozen yards away. He was pointing at various places on the ground, and one of her handlers told Miller that he was pointing at places where Saddam had placed those ol' debbil weapons of mass destruction.

You or I would have insisted on going over to the spot, or talking with the guy in the baseball cap, or following up. But you or I aren't ace reporters with the New York Times. Instead, Miller reported this episode straight, so deep into her own bullshit that she no longer recognized how bad it smelled anymore. Her stateside editors published this story without a peep of skepticism. I haven't yet figured out if they were on crack, up Judy's ass, or just so drunk with the romance of war reporting, but there was something going very wrong at the Newspaper of Record.

[flashl]

5. America's history is replete with mythmaking and first-times although circumstances are the same.

[pretzel4gore]

7. does the NYTimes editorial say this, or are you referring to them?

the NYTimes editorial board is a criminal organization, a murdering buncha thieves and traitors, who need trial and fair executions asap, just like the rest of the pigmedia. They cost every citizen of USa at least 50 k by lying for youngster bush (going back to landslide regan, who never got more then a 37 percent mandate)

[NRaleighLiberal]

10. The various editorial writers are all on the wrong track on my view,

so I refer to each of them - but I also agree with the way that you put it!