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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:12 PM
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IRS spent (squandered) $41.8M to tell us the check is in the mail... (morons!)
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 12:28 PM by Breeze54
IRS spent $41.8M to tell us the check is in the mail

http://www.stargazettenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080316/COLUMNIST20/803160302

March 16, 2008

Comment by Jim Pfiffer

I recently received an IRS letter telling me what I already know: My federal rebate check is in the mail.

Duh! The media have reported extensively on the rebates for months, and the topic is common public conversation.
My friends are already planning on how to spend the money.

IRS officials say the letter is needed to explain the rebate program. Explain what? We understand it. You file a tax return and you get a rebate check. Yet the IRS spent $41.8 million to mail letters to 130 million taxpayers who filed tax returns in 2007, and plans to send out another round of letters to people who didn't file returns that year. For that much money, the letter should have told the truth and read as follows:

Dear overtaxed taxpayer,

We are pleased to inform you that we just squandered $41.8 million of your hard-earned money sending you this useless letter. That's your federal government hard at work doing what we do best -- frittering away your tax dollars.

This idiotic use of your tax dollars is part of the Economic Stimulus and IRS Wastefulness acts of 2008, designed to make Congress and President George W. Bush look good, even though we told the president that there is not enough money in the world to improve his approval ratings. Rest assured, if we had all the money in the world we would find a good way to waste it.

Many people think the government is giving them free money through the Economic Stimulus Program. That's not true. The money was yours to begin with. It comes from the hefty federal taxes you pay us so that we'll have plenty of money to fritter away.


We are sending you this self-congratulatory letter to promote ourselves and explain the complicated tax rebate system. We realize that you and many other citizens are too dumb to comprehend the rebate program. We know you're ignorant because you re-elected Bush and the Congress who put our economy in the toilet and necessitated this Economic Stimulus Program.

Here's how the tax rebate system works: (please read the next sentence slowly or have someone read it to you and explain it): You file a 2007 tax return and we send you a rebate check.

See what we mean? That's a lot of information to digest at one time. You may want to reread this letter several times until you understand it. Or you can attend one of the many six-hour economic stimulus information classes we will hold around the country to explain the program. The classes will cost $100 million or more, but what's a few million dollars when the economy is at stake?

Speaking of steaks, remember when you could afford one? Well, when you receive your $600 rebate check you will be able to afford a steak (a small one, probably a chuck steak).

It's important that you spend your rebate check as soon as possible to stimulate the economy. Don't waste it paying off credit card debt or putting it into savings. We're in charge of wasting money. We don't need your help.

If you don't cash the check and spend all the money quickly, the country may fall into a recession, and we won't have any more money to squander. Then we will be forced to send everyone letters explaining the second stage of our Economic Stimulus Program, in which every citizen who files a tax return is required to send us money -- $600.

Don't worry, if we do that, we'll cover the return postage.

It's the least we can do for our cash-strapped citizens.


Jim Pfiffer's humor column appears Sundays in Twin Tiers Life.


Enjoy your Stimulus check! And don't forget to thank your grandkids for it too!
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:21 PM
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1. funny
I was struck by how vague it was.

It read to me as if "We just want to assure you that you may or may not receive a check for some amount."

The enormity of the relief I felt was indescribable.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:30 PM
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5. Ha! It's a definite "maybe", that's for sure.
Idiots and as a poster below stated, "That money could have fed
the poor or provided some health care for kids or the elderly.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:56 PM
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14. That is all mine said..you might get money
then again, you might not

I am guessing not
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:23 PM
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2. and they don't even tell you how much you will be getting!!!
i too was shocked when i got the mailing and realized they had spent money on it. those republicans are really good at gummint, huh? :wtf:

ellen fl
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:24 PM
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3. I was thinking the same thing when I read about it. Think how much food that could buy for the
hungry - what a filthy shame they all are. rec'd
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:29 PM
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4. For that money they could have gifted homes to 200 families.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:33 PM
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7. It could have made a dent in the Katrina N.O. catastrophe !
:grr:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:33 PM
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6. Remember a few years ago when any government mailing included a slip of paper
explaining the "Paperwork Reduction Act"?

A group of people had to sit around a table and agree this was a good idea, and the only question that comes to my mind is are they really that fucking ignorant?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:34 PM
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8. I'd have to say, "Yes! The rethugs ARE that ignorant!"
Idiots, all of them!
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:51 PM
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13. Well, of course ignorance is a prerequisite for rethuglicanism.
But in the bigger picture, not everyone who works for government is a republican. (DC is solidly blue) I don't know, did the order to send that letter come from on high midst ignored protests from IRS managers that it was an unnecessary expenditure? Or was it an idea developed within the IRS because someone thought it would be the appropriate thing to do?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:59 PM
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15. My guess it came from on high from an IRS rethug.
:shrug:

I don't get why it would be "the appropriate thing to do" though.

They don't send letters telling you to expect your income tax rebate

check in the mail, do they? No.

And yes, I know there are Dems in the Gov. Duh! :P

But the rethugs have been appointed by the * admin.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:39 PM
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9. Wish they had spent a couple of those bucks
to process my refund check, now 3 weeks late. It was filed online but apparently due to a backlog processing certain forms (mine was for the mortgage interest deduction) people are having to wait much longer for their refunds. This is supposed to be related to late action by congress on the alternative minimum tax (which at my income level I am definitely not affected by!) which in turn resulted in a backlog. I'm guessing that those stupid postcards for the stimulus were a higher priority than my refund check! :grr:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:42 PM
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10. Did you request direct deposit?
That's seems to be a lot faster, as in days not weeks, waiting to receive it.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:09 PM
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24. I did.
It's supposed to be deposited directly into my checking account, but has not shown up yet.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:46 PM
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11. 820 four year scholarships could have been awarded for that amount.



(Used 2007-2008 Georgetown tuition and other expenses combined as a yardstick)

Link: http://finaid.georgetown.edu/coaugrad.htm


820 deserving people could have received their degrees for what BushCo blew on what everyone already knew about anyway. I wonder how many people threw their letter in the trash without even reading it.




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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:50 PM
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12. Wow! That's a lot of education!
It's such a shame. :( A missed opportunity.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:04 PM
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16. they sent us one AND we don't qualify
talk about a freaking waste of money
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:42 PM
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19. You still might qualify....
do a search on google or some other search engine.

There have been articles saying that a lot of people
will qualify but you have to know how to do it right.

And that everyone should still file a tax return, just in case.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:47 PM
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21. we will file
but based on the information I've seen we are completely phased out including the child credit component.
I'm okay with that. I think the phase outs should probably occur at even lower income in order to put more money into the hands of the people who really need it.
Stimulating incomes upto $150K household seems over the top to me
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:55 PM
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22. Here... Read through this...
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 01:58 PM by Breeze54
Economic Stimulus Payments Information Center

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=177937,00.html#Low

Stimulus Payment Scenarios

What does it look like for you?


* Married with Qualifying Children

* Married without Qualifying Children

* Married Filing Separately, with or without Qualifying Children

* Single (Head of Household) with Qualifying Children

* Single without Qualifying Children

You May Be Eligible Even if You Normally Do Not File a Tax Return

If you have at least $3,000 in certain types of income,
you may be eligible for the economic stimulus payment.
You also may be able to use Free File - Economic Stimulus Payment.
See the special types of benefits or income that qualify below:


* Especially for Social Security Recipients

Information for people who receive retirement, disability or survivors' benefits

* Especially for Veterans Affairs Recipients
Information for people who receive pension, disability and survivors' benefits

* Especially for Railroad Retirement Recipients
Information for people who receive Tier 1 Railroad Retirement benefits

* Especially for Low-Wage Workers
Information for people who receive a wages, salary, tips, etc. or who are self-employed

Frequently Asked Questions

We have the answers to your questions in Stimulus Payments: Answers to Frequently Asked Questions.

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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:37 PM
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26. the calculator was helpful
it confirmed we're not getting any
again I'm okay with that.
We have good income so we shouldn't be the people who are targetted with this stimulus
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:28 PM
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17. I just got mine yesterday, I thought it was quite stupid to send it.
Plus it says they will send another notification before the checks arrive to inform me of how much I qualify for. So it appears they are doing it again before sending out the checks.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:36 PM
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18. Yup, a total waste.
Another one that bugs the hell out of me is when I email a letter or comment to any government agency/official and get a paper reply on fancy letterhead sent by freaking snail mail.

:wtf:

I obviously have email, so why waste staff time, paper, and postage in replying on paper?!? :banghead:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:44 PM
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20. I know! I told my rep to only reply to me using e-mail.
I think it was actually a selection on his website.

I checked e-mail. ;)
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:05 PM
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23. Yes, I do that where I'm given an option.
There are still those others, though....

I think from now on I'll insert a line at the top:

PLEASE DO NOT WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY BY REPLYING ON PAPER!

... and see if anybody actually reads those emails. :D

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:10 PM
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25. well we didn't get any such letter
does it mean we won't be getting our cash? we supposedly qualify
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:46 PM
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27. What does it mean if you did not get a letter?
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 02:48 PM by alarimer
Am I not getting a check then? I filed a tax return in 2007.

Actually I may have gotten a letter but I can't remember. I obviously did not pay much attention to it if I did.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:52 PM
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28. Maybe they're still printing and sending them? (Where's My Refund?)
Have you already filed?

Where's My Refund?
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96596,00.html

Payments due to start going out in May.
I'll bet you get a letter before that!
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:09 PM
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29. I know where my check is going to:
because it was deliberately designed to go right back into BIG OIL. HA!
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