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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:39 PM
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Quotes of John Adams
If you are not watching this series on HBO and if you are watching it:
I thought I would post on the man of this gripping show.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/ja2.html

Power always thinks... that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws.
John Adams


Fear is the foundation of most governments.
John Adams

Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war.
John Adams

If we do not lay out ourselves in the service of mankind whom should we serve?
John Adams

Let us tenderly and kindly cherish, therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write.
John Adams

Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people.
John Adams

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_adams.html
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:46 PM
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1. It has been a breathtaking experience watching this tremendous series. How do we know where to go,
if we don't known where we have been.

Watching this is like "living history".
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:48 PM
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2. I'm in awe of the writing, acting and the authenticity of what I have seen
They haven't taken a lot the dialogue right out of history.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:09 PM
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7. So far, it is brilliant in every way. At the end of episode 2, me the mush, was in tears.
I feel so badly that it doesn't have a wider audience.
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MadAnne Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:26 PM
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9. And how cool is Ben Franklin? n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:28 PM
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11. absolutely! You really feel like you're there.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:49 PM
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3. It comes on here in 10 minutes
We're really looking forward to it.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:53 PM
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4. The only problem with Adams was he thought "the people"
were folks like him, the elite. The unwashed throng were to be feared and blocked at every turn. Hence his pushing for the creation of a Senate to short curcuit the will of the rabble.

In Philadelphia memories of Adams aren't so fond, if you were Irish anyway. The Alien and Sedition Acts he had passed into law were designed to lock up and or silence his political enemies, and if they were Irish, deport them.

From my blog named after the Philadelphia Aurora (A Jefferson organ) the newspaper started by Benjamin Frankin Bache, who when he died in 1798, was taken over by one William Duane. (The Aurora eventually became the Inquirer in 1820 something.)

This from "American Aurora" by Richard N. Rosenfeld.

July 24, 1799

Secretary of State Timothy Pickering writes to president John Adams:

"There is in the Aurora of the city an uninterrupted stream of slander on the American government. I enclose the paper of this morning. It is not the first time that the editor has suggested that you had asserted the influence of the British government in affairs of our own and insinuated that it was obtained through bribery. The general readers of the Aurora will believe both. I shall give the paper to Mr. Rawle, and, if he thinks it libelous, desire him to prosecute the editor . . .

The Editor of the Aurora, William Duane, pretends he is an American citizen, saying he was born in Vermont, but was when a child, taken back with his parents to Ireland, where he was educated. But I understand the facts to be, that he went from American prior to our revolution, remained in the British dominions till after peace, went to the British East Indies, where he committed or was charged with some crime, and returned to Great Britain, from whence, within three or four years past, he came to this country to stir up sedition and work other mischief.

I presume, therefore, that he is really a British subject and, as an alien, liable to be banished from the United States. He has lately set himself up to be the captain of a company of volunteers, whose distinguished badges are a plume of cock-neck feathers and a small black cockade and a large eagle. He is doubtless a United Irishman, and the company probably formed to oppose the authority of the government; and, in case of war and invasion by the French, to join them."

Duane attacked and beaten:

On Wednesday, May 15, 1799, William Duane was attacked in his office by a contingent of Federal troops from the city's volunteer Calvary unhappy about an article he had written about them the day before. They demanded to know who the source of his story was but he would not divulge the name. He was grabbed by the leader of the group of about thirty toughs out of his chair and dragged down the stairs and into Franklin Court where he was mercilessly beaten in front of his young son and then, as a final humiliation, whipped.

Mere minutes after the assault he wrote this:

"If any circumstance could more deeply impress on his mind . . . to guard, with vigilance of republican jealousy, against the artifices, the intrigues and injustice of arbitrary men; -- this conduct would only more and more attack him to his principles -- but he has never slackened since he has had the honor to hold his present situation -- and while he holds it, his hand must perish or his vital principles must be suspended by the hand of some of those assassins before he will shrink from exposing villains and crimes to public obloquy."
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:03 PM
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6. I was fascinated by his interplay and correspondence with Jefferson over the years
and found myself at times, siding with Adams, but mostly with Jefferson.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:27 PM
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I especially liked the part where he tried to change the name of french fries
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:49 PM
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13. Fish and Chips were changed to Fish and French Fries
and then back to Freedom Fries after Sept 11th.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:27 PM
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10. I especially liked the part where he tried to change the name of french fries
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Apinionated Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:55 PM
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5. Thanks! Great quotes.
kicked and recommended

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:23 PM
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8. I added HBO just so I could watch this.
Haven't been disappointed!
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:57 PM
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14. same here!
Much of it was filmed in my little town, Williamsburg.

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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:35 PM
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12. I often flashed on today's crisis. To boot, great mini-series.
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