Where is the outrage? -Bush is bombing our Allies!

[kpete]

Reckless And Naive Bush Adminstration Invades Pakistan
By: Blue Texan Monday March 17, 2008 7:05 am

Where is the outrage?

Missiles that witnesses say came from an unmanned drone flattened a suspected militant safehouse Sunday in Pakistan's tribal area along the Afghan border. State television said the strike killed about 20 people.

Witnesses said a drone dropped seven missiles on the sprawling, mud-brick compound about three miles outside Wana, the main town in South Waziristan. Only U.S.-led coalition forces in Afghanistan are known to operate unmanned drones in the region, and they have launched attacks over the Pakistani border before.http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIE0IUn4WIiaMBpjG8SI_6H5RXzgD8VETH900

Remember the week-long, non-stop hysteria when Sen. Obama said that he would strike high value al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan?

more at:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIE0IUn4WIiaMBpjG8SI_6H5RXzgD8VETH900

[tomg]

1. Unfortunately, all of the outrage

seems to be spent over at GD: Primaries. Kpete, thanks for reminding us of what really matters.

[Lasher]

2. Ah, the memories

"When I take action, I’m not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It’s going to be decisive." - George W. Bush, September 13, 2001.

[genie_weenie]

3. Yesterday's friend isn't today's. No eternal allies, just the eternal interests of the Ruling Class

War is the answer.

[Vanje]

7. "We have always been at war with EastEurasia " nt

[alfredo]

11. When I was in the service I was told we only have enemies and

potential enemies.

[democrank]

4. K & R

Thanks for posting this, kpete.

[bdamomma]

5. * is our biggest threat, and he needs to be arrested.

:banghead:

[jlake]

6. Not to defend Bush, but Obama has gotten great praise on here for

saying he'll do the same thing.

[superkia]

9. Did he really say that he would do that? I would like to read more...

about this before I make my vote, where can I read about this? Was it a speech or something, I would like to look into this more.I wouldn't think that Clinton or Obama would just bomb innocent people much less tell us they were gong to do it.

[jlake]

10. It's at barackobama.com under foreign policy.

He says he will go into Pakistan without their permission, and of course the risk of bombing "terrorists" is civilian casualties.

[superkia]

12. Could you just copy and paste it for me? I looked and used the...

"find" option to look for Pakistan and it shows nothing. If you know where its at could you just copy and paste it for me?

[jlake]

13. I no longer venture to his website, but here is a link to the story

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0132206420070801

[superkia]

15. Oh, I remember this from a debate I think? I dont think he said...

anything about unmanned drones or inaccurate bombs to kill innocent people, he may have meant sending in a unti to directly hit the terrorist. So I do agree with what he is saying,

"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Obama said.

I think the most important part there is actionable, meaning not the drum beats and outdated evidence that Clinton and the rest of the thugs accepted. Even after Kucinich went to the floor telling them all that their was no evidence for war and that it was about oil, they all still joined bush and his agenda and gave their congressional power to go to war away. Hmmm...why would they do that?

I think you have been had and you might want to find out what your candidates REAL agenda is!

[jlake]

16. Unfortunately, he would use drones and bombs (all are inaccurate despite what the military claims)

[superkia]

17. You should start a topic on how you are connected and know all...

you could settle allot of the bickering going on around here since you have inside information to the government.Use your knowledge and help us make this a better country!

[LSK]

20. you might want to check out what Bill Clinton did in 1998

Before you go criticizing this....

:eyes:

[jlake]

22. I know what Bill did, and I am not criticizing Obama's plans -- in fact I am sure

Hillary would do the same thing.
The point is that Bush MAY be acting responsible in these assaults.

[krkaufman]

29. Well, the general premise is one thing.

The power being in the hands of Bush & Cheney is a whole 'nother thing. I'm none too confident that the strikes are at all fully vetted, and wouldn't be surprised to learn that we're bombing based on the say-so of less-than-reliable rival factions just looking to take out their competition. (exactly as they did in turning over rivals for cold storage at Guantanimo)

[haymakeragain]

23. There's a difference. The difference is

who decides when and where to attack. I don't trust Bush as far as I could spit him, and neither does the rest of the world. "Actionable" to him means "will this distract attention from that", or "this'll make think I am the all-powerful terror fighterman".

Bush is bullshit, from head down. I trust Obama's judgment to attack inside Pakistan if necessary, not the monkey in a mansuit.

[Peace Patriot]

8. U.S. bombs and U.S. surviellance, and, more than likely, U.S. aircraft out of the

Manta, Ecuador, U.S. air base, bombed a location inside Ecuador last week, and Colombian troops (and U.S. Special Forces? Blackwater?) crossed the border for a turkey shoot of 22 members of the FARC guerrilla group (and visiting Mexican students), including the chief FARC hostage negotiator, who was arranging for 12 more hostage releases with the Presidents of France, Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina. Everyone in this guerrilla camp in the jungle were asleep. Bodies were found in their pajamas or underwear. Some shot in the back. Clearly an operation to STOP these presidents' peace efforts to end the 40+ year Colombian civil war.

The Bushites and their bus boy in Colombia, Alvaro Uribe (former go-to guy for the Medellin Cartel, now the go-to guy for the Bush Cartel) then started accusing these peace-maker presidents of being "terrorist lovers."

But you can't really understand the irony of this, if you don't know the facts. And most North Americans have been kept well in the dark about what-all the Bush Junta has been up to in South America. It would boggle your mind. Thousands of union leaders, small peasant farmers, political leftists, human rights workers and journalists slaughtered in Colombia, by Colombian security forces and paramilitaries larded with $5 BILLION in Bush/U.S. military aid. The goal of it all is to destabilize Venezuela and Ecuador (both members of OPEC with lots of oil), and the Andes region in general (where democracy is flourishing everywhere but in Colombia), and regain corporate predator control of the Andes oil fields. This is the purpose of the $5 billion to Colombia, and multi-millions in USAID-NED and covert funds to rightwing groups, as well as the relentless demonization of Venezuela's President Chavez as a "dictator." (He is not.) Oil War II.

[DCKit]

30. Yeah, what he said.

But boy-oh, are you gonna get a raft of shit for it. Then again, your little rant is pretty tight, so it's going to be tough for the Hugo-haters and LA policy apologists to tear you a new one.

[Peace Patriot]

31. Oh, let them! They don't have anything to support their position on this.

No facts. No analysis. Nothing! And you'll notice their posts are very short. I've encountered many of their three-word comments (really, they write like Bush speaks), and their longer missives (three sentences is about the limit--then they become tired). They just keep repeating the same idiotic Bushite "talking points" over and over. I've yet to meet a single one of them who taught me anything, or had anything to say that was worth reading. Bush has really wrecked the CIA. They used to be better than this.

[crimsonblue]

14. I don't see what the problem is...

Surgically striking at suspected targets beats the hell out of full scale Iraq-style invasion. I think it is smart to continue to take out the top leaders of these groups, but I am curious how there always seems to be a new Number 1 bad guy... We must be doing a shitty job if we keep recruiting bad guys to the bad side by killing off their leaders.

[lame54]

18. That's incredible - We have allies?

:shrug:

[Ordr]

19. Better Pakistan than Iran.

At least we know there are terrorists there.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

21. Let's add that he allowed the Turks to attack northern Iraq. Honestly, at least at this moment,

I think I've peaked on my outrage meter. I can't keep track of all the things I've been outraged against and for now, at least for this moment, I'm exhausted.

[BigDaddy44]

24. Isn't this what Obama wanted to do?

[GreenTea]

25. It's so much warmer & cozier & more fun to sit home eat snacks & yell about it on DU instead!

Protesting in the streets is so 60's....its usually pretty cold out there too, I prefer the warmth in my home, not to mention what would my friends think of me if they saw me on the streets screaming & yelling protest?

[Thepricebreaker]

26. If he got their permission to do this, its a non-issue - find out first...

[Thepricebreaker]

27. If he got their permission to do this, its a non-issue - find out first...

[GreenTea]

28. Say it again, third times the charm!!