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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:40 PM
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It Was Pleasing To Hear The 2nd Amendment Case Before the Court Today
The arguments were interesting, the questions even more so. I paid particular attention to Kennedy (be I wasn't the only one) and it seemed to me, by the questions he asked, that he was staying on the Constitutional question and not letting himself be sidetracked by extraneous stuff. If I had to judge by the tone of the questioning I'd say that the anti-gun-nuts are going to lose big time on this one and the individual rights camp will prevail.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:53 PM
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1. I don't think there is any doubt left that it protects an individual right. And that is already law
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 02:55 PM by jmg257
anyway. I think the big question/answer will be what level of scrutiny is allowed for supposed infringements on this right, i.e. what constitutes a "reasonable" restriction in order to satisfy gov't's compelling interest.

Of course putting to bed all the BS myths about "collective rights", "militia context only" etc. will be nice, but they still have a lot of room to sort of...please & dissapoint both sides (except specifically DC - I think their laws will be overturned to an extent). And there is also the question of states vs. feds legislation, which came up as well.

It will be interesting come June!
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:58 PM
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2. "No one is saying you can't own a gun. No one is saying you can't carry a gun. All we are saying
is that you can't carry a gun in Dodge."
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MaryCeleste Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:05 PM
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9. Or Wash DC
Fenty is reported to already screaming about getting a backup plan.

One thing I have gotten out of this is the high level of parallel between Gun Grabbers and Anti Choice bigots. They both use evey chance they get to nibble away at that which they abhor.

If they come done as a state decision, we can kiss Roe goodbye
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:10 PM
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11. This will be "Roe" for the Gun people
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MaryCeleste Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:25 PM
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12. Moreover if they make it a state issues means that Roe will be one too
and we all know where that will lead
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:59 PM
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3. Kennedy shocked me
I make it a strong 5 to 4 in favor of gun ownership rights.:toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :patriot:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:01 PM
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4. Actually I think it might actually go 6/3 or better.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 03:02 PM by ThomWV
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:13 PM
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5. So do I
I was being pessimistic.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:22 PM
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6. How long is this expected to take?
When might we see the final ruling?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:25 PM
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7. Around June would be about right. This one will be one of the last they get around to.
The easy ones come first.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:59 PM
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8. The court could not care less about individual rights.
They have demonstrated this fact over and over again. If they discover, miraculously, that such a right exists within the second (which of course it does) it will be for reasons that have nothing to do with individuals or their right to keep and bear arms.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:07 PM
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10. are they being bribed by smith and wesson?
Or what is your theory?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 10:30 AM
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13. The fascist four simply want to re-elect a republican
and see this as an opportunity to help do just that. One or two others will go along based on their honest reading of the 2nd and not for the political advantage.
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