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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 04:49 PM
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Rush Limbaugh conspires and this is what happens....
Rush Limbaugh must be stopped!!!!!!!!
Ohio's revised election code includes an election falsification clause (Revised Code 3513.20), which says that if a voter who changes parties is challenged by poll workers as to the sincerity of his change of heart and also signs an affidavit stating that he supports the principles of the party to which he's changing -- when in fact he doesn't support them -- then he would be committing election falsification. Election falsification is a felony that is punishable by six to twelve months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

It's clear that cross-over voting occurred in large numbers in Ohio this year. The Ohio secretary of state's office doesn't have statistics yet on how many voters crossed parties in the primary (it's still compiling them), but the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting that in Cuyahoga County alone, the state's largest county, at least 16,000 Republicans switched parties for the primary.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 04:51 PM
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1. It'll be interesting to see what happens
Be nice if there were some prosecutions, but i doubt it.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 04:53 PM
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2. Good post, something needs to be done to stop those Limbaugh voters!
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 04:55 PM
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3. Hillary & Obama
need to expose Limbaugh in interviews.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 04:59 PM
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4. This is what will happen in the General Election
IF Obama is the nominee.BO will lose and we will be stuck with McLame.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:31 PM
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5. That law would never pass Constitutional muster. The ACLU would chew it up & spit it out....
Like a parrot on a nut. Our electoral problems are not solved by trying to tighten laws that enforce party discipline. Just the opposite. We should be working to weakening the two-party system, not strengthening. The kinds of reform we need are preference voting, proportional representation, etc.

:hippie:
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hifalutin Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 05:46 PM
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6. One can only hope but
I won't hold my breath.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:00 PM
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8. You said it!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:52 PM
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14. That'll not likely to happen in lifetimes. Parties don't vote for reforms that weaken their grip.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 05:55 PM by Selatius
The only way the Democratic Party would ever push through reforms like proportional representation or run-off voting like what France uses or some other system like the German federated model is if the Party was forced to pass the reforms. The Republican Party would be even less likely to introduce such reforms.

You'd need a constitutional amendment, which would likely be shot down anyway by a minority of conservatives.

If people were liberated to vote for a third party without fear of electoral disaster like Bush v. Gore, the Democratic Party would lose many members overnight to the Greens and new parties like Labor, Social Democrats, various democratic socialist parties, Christian Democrats, etc. They know this, and they don't want that.

Edited for grammar.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:35 PM
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7. Yeah! Finally some justice!
Now all that has to happen is for the Justice Department to... press.. charges.

Never mind.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:30 PM
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9. Justice Department would have nothing to do with it.
These are state laws and any action taken would be by the state.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 08:35 PM
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10. Ah, yes
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 08:35 PM by Canuckistanian
But then, why were US attorneys fired for NOT prosecuting so-called "voter frauds"?

Were they supposed to be prosecuting state crimes?
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:34 PM
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12. I don't know the facts of the "voter frauds" but they probably had something to do with illegals.
That would be a federal crime. But the specific laws cited in the OP are state laws.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:58 PM
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15. It's a dual jurisdiction issue. Civil Rights Division inside the DoJ likely has jurisdiction here.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 05:59 PM by Selatius
Any state level law that may infringe on a citizen's right to vote or express himself or herself is automatically a civil rights issue. The DoJ would be well within its power to step in if it so exercises the discretion.

If Ohio passes the law, you can bet it would raise civil rights issues.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:34 AM
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11. It'd be a hoot if the Republics went after their own for the payoff.
$40 million is a bundle to those who so willingly eat their own for far, far less.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:45 PM
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13. Can DEMs sue Rush and the network he works for? Take their money for
conspiracy to disrupt a democratic process and do harm by illegal means. I think, in liability law, when harm is caused in the act of a crime or while violating the code of federal regulations, there is not much of a defense available!

Hey Rush, did you just give us the key to your bank? :rofl:
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:33 PM
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16. You cant investigate the "soul" of a voter if they switch parties.. This is a dead issue..
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 06:33 PM by Thepricebreaker
How do you do such a thing? Give each voter a polygraph?

Every voter will simply say.. yes.. i love hillary or whatever.. This will lead to nothing, and trust me.. Rush is laughing his ass off and wants all this publicity..

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:02 PM
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17. Rush should have been kicked off the air about 1,000 times by now.
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