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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:32 PM
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Fox News has been selected as THE reporter for the convention? WTF? Just say NOoooo!!
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 10:48 PM by Breeze54
A person was being interviewed on AAR about the Blogger summit at at the Center For American Progress Action Fund
and he reported that Fox News will decide what you see and what you hear at the convention!?!

He said that apparently this decision was made in September but they have kept it under wraps!

He gave this number out four times for Democrats to call and protest this decision.

CALL Jenny at the Democratic(?) Press Office

and PROTEST THIS DECISION!!! 720-362-2130



Read more here and get more information about this!! http://www.blogactive.com/

The owner of the site will be updating the site shortly with the details.


:grr: I don't want Fox having anything to do with the Democratic Convention, do you?

Didn't we go through this once before? :shrug:

:banghead:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:34 PM
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1. This can't possibly be true. n/t
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:42 PM
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11. They all will be there.
All major TV, news, radio networks will be there reporting, interviewing and so on.

Relax.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:34 PM
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2. well that`s interesting....waiting for the confirmation
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:35 PM
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3. This doesn't make sense
Did they volunteer?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:38 PM
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6. He was saying that they may have been selected in a backroom
deal or had thier name pulled out of a hat but he wasn't sure.

The owner of that blog link was at the Blogger summit

"I've been attending a non-partisan blogger summit at the Center For American Progress Action Fund.."

and he heard that and asked again and he said it was confirmed.
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:49 PM
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14. FoxNews is the WORST choice
If they were commentating football, every play would be 'slant right.' (I heard that a while ago). Dang, I hope it's not true.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:36 PM
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4. No way.
No single network has ever gotten exclusivity for a national convention.

I call shenanigans.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:38 PM
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5. That has been known for many months.
I think it has to do with the Denver folks. Apparently they got a good deal from Fox for carrying it throughout the west.

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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:39 PM
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7. Huh? Agnes, is that you?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:51 PM
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15. That's what the guy said. Call AAR and ask them about it.
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 10:51 PM by Breeze54
That's what was said. I'm waiting for that link to be updated. I tried googling
to find anything about this but could not, although the guy said he'd read it on
other blogs in the last few days.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:40 PM
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8. I just put that number in my
phone. I'm calling tomorrow to confirm. This makes no sense give the fux debates freeze out.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:40 PM
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9. I think they're just providing the camera pool at the Pepsi Center.
I know there's a large Fox affiliate in downtown Denver with lots of control rooms and satellite dishes. It might be pretty innocent.
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:41 PM
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10. That's sickening.
I think I'm speechless.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:43 PM
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12. "We distort, you decide."



Couldn't they find a REAL news outlet?



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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 10:48 PM
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13. Just what
brainiac made this decision? Where on earth did this come from? Certainly not from the Democrats I hope. I do hope this is not true.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:18 AM
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16. K&R'd. nt
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:24 AM
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17. I'm not the only one who heard this...someone in GD-P also posted about it.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 12:26 AM by Breeze54
*** FOX 'News' Selected to be Official Press Pool Broadcaster at the Democratic Convention!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5149828&mesg_id=5149828

"Just heard Mike Rogers of blogactive.com , on the John Elliot's Air America Show, break and confirm this. The press office of the Democratic National Convention confirmed this, by phone, with Rogers. They've apparently known this since last September.
"
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:43 AM
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18. CHILL OUT people. Fox will just provide the pool feed.
Each network will still be there with roving reporters, cameras and shit. Fox won't control how the other networks cover the convention or editorial content.

Don't worry, we'll still get to hear the brilliant commentary from Tweety, Wolf, and Katie Couric.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:44 AM
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19. As the 'Official Press Pool Broadcaster' don't they control what gets broadcast?
:shrug:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:08 AM
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20. Def: Press Pool - An ordinary broadcast press pool is often confused with a "host feed."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_pool

Press pool refers to a group of news gathering organizations pooling their resources in the collection of news. A pool feed is then distributed to members of the broadcast pool who are free to edit it or use it as they see fit. In the case of print reporters, a written pool report is distributed to all members.

Reasons for Pool Coverage

Lack of Space

Pool coverage is sometimes required because of the nature of the news event being covered. For example, judges will often allow only one broadcast camera in the courtroom during a trial. As a result, interested broadcasters will select one of their own to provide the "pool camera" for the day, with that organization agreeing to share the footage with all other broadcasters in the pool.

Similarly, a daily rotating pool is set up at the White House for organizations that cover the president. They are allowed special access to certain events with the understanding that the information and footage will then be shared with the rest of the White House press corps. For instance, when the president meets with a foreign dignitary, the two will sometimes make a statement together in the Oval Office. Since it is not possible to accommodate all interested journalists in that room, pool coverage is the only practical way to handle the event.

Controlling Expense

At other times, pool coverage takes place as a more cost-effective way of covering events that only occasionally "make news." For example, the major networks usually rely on a pool feed of the daily briefing at the State Department for their live coverage, since the press conference is usually only of national interest when there is a significant breaking story relating to international diplomacy. Since "coverage" of such an event consists merely of pointing a camera at a person standing behind a lectern, a pool feed is a practical means of ensuring the event will be available as needed without all five major US TV news outlets paying for their own individual live crews.

Large Events

Pool situations are also often set up because of the physical enormity of covering certain events. One prominent example of this was the international broadcast of the state funeral of John F. Kennedy, which involved four major venues and a lengthy procession. Likewise, presidential inaugurations and political conventions tend to involve pool coverage in the US (particularly since there is no state broadcaster that would naturally handle the coverage on its own).

Press Pool v. Host Feed

An ordinary broadcast press pool is often confused with a "host feed." While pool coverage is always handled by press organizations, a host feed is provided by a third party (usually the organization being covered). For example, under normal circumstances, the only cameras allowed in the chambers of Congress are those operated by government employees under rules established by congressional leaders. (Contrary to popular belief, C-SPAN has no control over them.) Under such circumstances, press organizations have only two choices: take the host feed as it is or have no video at all.

Expectations of Pool Members

While there are not necessarily formal rules, there tends to be a set of informal expectations for pool members. Primarily, all pool members are expected to "share the load" equally. For example, in the case of ongoing events, a different station might provide a pool reporter and/or camera every day. For one-time events, each organization may have its own responsibility (such as providing all cameras or mobile trucks). If there are different venues, each location can be covered by a different member of the pool. If there is not a practical way to divide the responsibilities, organizations in the pool will split the cost.

In addition, it is paramount that no pool members use their special access in order to garner an "exclusive" for themselves. In the case of television, a pool photographer is expected to turn over all of the material that was taped rather than keeping certain select shots for his or her own employer. Print pool reporters are prohibited from including any detail in their own stories that was not included in the pool report, even it is only a matter of local color. As a result, White House pool reports are often written in excrutiating detail. At a state dinner, the report will likely include what the president ate and what color clothes he was wearing.

more....


-----------------

I hope that means that they can't manipulate what is broadcast but I'd still prefer
they weren't the "official" anything at the Democratic Convention.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:53 AM
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22. Keep in mind Breeze that this is usually orchestrated by
a broadcast organization group, to which everyone belongs.

If FOX gets this convention, another network will be pool for the Republican Convention.

The networks are on a rotation for big events.

Behind the scenes, all of the network engineer/technical people work together.

They're all usually part of the same union.

You don't burn bridges because TV news is a small world, so everyone helps everyone out.

I guess the point I'm making is, while I'd prefer not to have FOX associated with our convention, we won't notice the difference at home, since the network we'll be watching types the names onto the screen, displays it's own logo, etc.

You'd probably be surprised at some of the events you've watched where FOX was the pool and you didn't notice anything different.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:02 AM
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23. Fox carried the Super Bowl and they sucked.
I noticed. And if they have control of the cameras, then they control what we see.

Will they focus on people in disagreements or people (officials) falling asleep during speeches?

Just a few questions. :(
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:23 AM
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27. I've actually thought FOX Sports does an excellent job,
from a technical standpoint.

They're a completely different unit than FOX News, of course.

You might not be too familiar with them, since your team is in the AFC (which, as you know, is home to CBS and formerly, NBC).

But FOX was the first to have the yellow line to show how far you need for a first down...they have the cool home plate cam for baseball, etc.

Seems like the other networks are always trying to "outcool" them.

I believe their job will be to carry the speeches and shoot some cutaways of the crowd, reactions, etc., which help the videotape editors.

But to say they will control what we see is an overstatement, in my opinion.

I'd like to see the specifics, but I think it will be a limited roll, as polls most always are.

Just FYI, it works the same with still photographers depending on the venue. Sometimes AP will get the pool, sometimes Reuters, etc.

Everyone shares big events. It's the way it works, so it's not one big crowded clusterf*ck.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:24 PM
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30. They carried the RS baseball games and everyone was complaining.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 01:24 PM by Breeze54
They did a lousy job. They were annoying with all the graphics and small screens of the game
in the corner and having the announcers take up the rest and they never shut up with their
idiotic drivel.

"But to say they will control what we see is an overstatement, in my opinion."

I asked about that, I didn't state it as fact but imho, they shouldn't be connected
with the Dem Convention at all, period.



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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:10 AM
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25. No
they have no editorial control whatsoever.

They own the camera that's focused on the podium. They provide raw video of that to all the nets.

However, all the networks will be there with their own cameras and their own teams.
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Melodyed Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:27 AM
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31. Fox won the Pool Feed for the Democratic National Convention in Denver, CO
"FOX NEWS NETWORK" as they call themselves should not be in the pool feed in the first place because they are a news opinion show. NEWS is not 1 percent fact it is ALL FACT.

I listened to the Jon's March 19, 2008 on Air America show and this is what I got out of it.

Pool feed? Fox won the Pool Feed. Unless we find a way to change it, they will be the only network filming the Democratic National Convention in Denver, CO.

If you want to know more call Jenny Ingebritzen at 720-362-2130 and ask her why a republican talking points station that is owned by Rupert Murdock even going to be allowed in at the Democratic National Convention.

If you want to do something about it call or watch blogactive.com they said they will give us updates.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:33 AM
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33. Fox could pull all sorts of dirty tricks if they put the camera on
the podium. You are forgetting how really low and partisan they are. No, I don't want Fox at our convention. They should not even be there.

The candidates refused to allow Fox to host a debate. That was a wise decision.

I do not trust them to handle the technical aspect of the televising of the convention. Mikes can be left on at the wrong moment. Camera angles or lighting can be unflattering. No, Fox should be boycotted by all Democrats at all times.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:46 AM
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21. Exactly. The pool is most certainly for the major podium
speeches, and everyone can plug into the mult box for access.

Crews will still rove for interviews, networks will still have their sky box suites.

It's just to prevent having to set up five four story risers for 50-plus camera crews in a space-limited area.

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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:24 AM
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29. hopefully
c-span will be there. with c-span i can watch it. with all the rest i dunno
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:04 AM
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24. Biggest rating station.. arent we supposed to get republicans to vote for us?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:21 AM
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26. It has nothing to do with that
it doesn't mean in any way that Fox has exclusive rights to cover the convention. ALL the networks will cover it. They'll all have cameras and crews there.

But Fox will own and operate the camera that provides the "general" video - the straight-on shot of the podium. They won't superimpose graphics, they'll have no editorial input whatsoever.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 07:17 AM
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28. is this for real?
they aren't even a news organization.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:24 AM
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32. The Democratic Party should refuse to allow Fox access to the convention
at all. Fox is a propaganda tool for the Republican Party. That is all it is. Keep them out.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:43 AM
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34. I agree, they are nothing more than an arm of the GOP
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