Is the Pentagon Policy Shop Funding Likudist Fronts?

[New Dawn]

Here is a link to an important work of investigative journalism by Jim Lobe of the IPS: http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe/?p=118

[Demeter]

1. If It Gets Them What They Want, Sure!

America has no scruples that I've been able to discern.

[Noirceuil]

2. The Real Problem...

Since the creation of Israel, every U.S. President has adopted the foreign policy that what is good for Israel is good for America. Logically, this cannot be true 100% of the time, and yet every action we take domestically and abroad is based on that faulty assumption. No one can criticize Israel without being called an anti-Semite, and so these idiotic policies continue.

[Hardrada]

3. Exactly. We are burdened with this but I think people are

beginning to see how absurd it is.

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[Behind the Aegis]

4. Learn more history.

"Since the creation of Israel, every U.S. President has adopted the foreign policy that what is good for Israel is good for America." False. But you will find plenty here buy into that bullshit claptrap.

"Logically, this cannot be true 100% of the time, and yet every action we take domestically and abroad is based on that faulty assumption." False. But, you are showing which highway you are taking.

"No one can criticize Israel without being called an anti-Semite, and so these idiotic policies continue." False. Three for three! Congrats.

Your post is a perfect example of the hyperbolic anti-Israeli bigotry so many like to gobble up like candy.

[Noirceuil]

6. A perfect example...

I criticized America's relationship with Israel and you accused me of bigotry even though I didn't post anything racist. Game-Set-Match.

[Behind the Aegis]

7. Because what you wrote was bigoted...

let's review...

"Since the creation of Israel, every U.S. President has adopted the foreign policy that what is good for Israel is good for America."

As I already said, this is false. Review your history and you will find that US relations with Israel were not good at all for years after her creation, and even after it started to warm, most were not very "Jew-positive" but rather, saw Israel as a good piece of real estate to use to combat the Soviet influence in the area.

"Logically, this cannot be true 100% of the time, and yet every action we take domestically and abroad is based on that faulty assumption."

Of course, logically this can't be true, because it isn't. Every action the US takes domestically and abroad are based on what is "what is good for Israel is good for America?" No, this is the 'new anti-Semitism' some speak of, because it superimposes "Israel" over the word "Jew." This is what you wrote in very plain English:

"Israel runs US policy."

Israel doesn't "run" the US foreign policy, nor does every president since her creation base their policy on foreign policy with the thought of "what is good for Israel is good for America." US domestic policy sure as hell isn't based on your ridiculous claim.

Finally, you claim " (n)o one can criticize Israel without being called an anti-Semite, and so these idiotic policies continue." While it is certainly true some will claim anti-Semitism where none exists, it is more like one will hear claims like yours that they are being called anti-Semites for criticizing Israel, all the while using anti-Semitic filth to do so. There are few who are falsely accused; it is bound to happen; but legitimate criticism of Israel does exist and is often employed.

[Noirceuil]

8. Are you kidding?

Israel does run certain aspects of America's foreign policy. There is a huge Zionist lobby in D.C. that every candidate from both parties must suck up to in order to be elected. Obama is desperately trying to convince this lobby that he is Pro-Israel. Why should allegiance to a foreign government be a deal breaker in a U.S. election? When Cynthia McKinney voiced an opinion the Israelis didn't like, they funded millions to her opponent and launched a smear campaign against her. Ron Paul said we need to be more even-handed in our approach to Israel and the Palestinians and he got called an anti-Semite. This is why no politician has addressed this issue in decades. The "anti-Semite" card is Israel’s greatest WMD

[Behind the Aegis]

9. Not at kidding at all.

Israel doesn't run certain aspects of American foreign policy, any more than does Saudi Arabia.

"There is a huge Zionist lobby in D.C. that every candidate from both parties must suck up to in order to be elected."

:rofl: Prove it! Go ahead. Prove that every candidate must "suck up" to the Zionist lobby.

"Obama is desperately trying to convince this lobby that he is Pro-Israel."

Considering your anti-Obama, as well, am I surprised you took this time to mention him? NOPE! Talk about killing two birds with one stone.

"Why should allegiance to a foreign government be a deal breaker in a U.S. election? "

Prove it.

"When Cynthia McKinney voiced an opinion the Israelis didn't like, they funded millions to her opponent and launched a smear campaign against her."

Again...prove it! Oh and :rofl:

"Ron Paul said we need to be more even-handed in our approach to Israel and the Palestinians and he got called an anti-Semite."

Well, not to sound repetitive, but....prove it.

"This is why no politician has addressed this issue in decades."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: whew...OK...off the floor now...you just gave TWO examples of politicians who DID address the issues. Of course, there are more, but I don't want to interrupt your "facts."

"The "anti-Semite" card is Israel’s greatest WMD."

Yes, I have heard that, but it is usually at sites with crazy looking crosses or sites where the motto is "you are with us or against us."

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