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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:14 PM
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Stunt man turned salon owner shoots robber.
A would-be robber, “picked the wrong business and the wrong cowboy to mess with,” when he entered a Phoenix storefront and pulled out a gun.

That’s because Rodd Wolff leads a double life. He is a movie stuntman. In training for roles in films like “Rambo III”, “Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure” and “Miracle at Sage Creek”, Wolff had to be able to shoot a gun while riding a horse. He got a chance to put those cowboy skills to use in the unlikely setting of the business he owns, a hair salon.

Wolff, his wife and three clients were inside Hair Productions at 25 Street and Indian School Road about 3:30 Tuesday afternoon when the suspect walked in wearing a wig and dark sunglasses. Because of previous crimes at nearby businesses, Wolff had established a code word his employees would use in the event of a robbery.

He was in a back room when he heard his wife utter the code word three times. As the robber moved further into the salon, Wolff removed a gun that had been wrapped in a towel and ordered the man to drop his gun. When he did not comply, Wolff fired three shots, striking the suspect.


Read the rest of the article at:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/12n-0318salonrobber-CR.html

I love stories with happy endings.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:17 PM
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1. Smart plan
to have a code word. Glad the crook was apprehended.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:40 PM
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2. Outstanding!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:50 PM
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3. I'd have done it to protect my wife, but if it were just me and customers
that would have been my last day breathing. No way in hell do I shoot someone to save myself.
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tachyon Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:54 PM
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4. You don't believe in self-defense?
:wtf:

I REALLY don't get -that-. :eyes:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:55 PM
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5. I know a person who did it. It's affected him his entire life, no way I'm risking going through
that.
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tachyon Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:01 PM
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8. Well, to each his own I guess...I'd a hell of a lot rather feel guilty than dead.
:eyes:
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:10 PM
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9. I don't understand your feelings either,
but it doesn't matter if I understand or not. It's only important that you have thought it through and clearly you have. I don't want to harm anybody and I try to conduct my life in such a manner as to limit the possibilities of armed conflict. But, I decided a long time ago that I will defend myself if necessary and the older I get the more ornery I get. The good thing is that unless you put a sign in front of your house the bad guys have no way to know which of us is which.

Regards, Mugu
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I work for workers Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:56 PM
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6. Not shooting the guy to protect clients when you have the option
sounds like bad customer service to me...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:18 PM
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12. I'm sorry you don't value your life, or your wife, enough to defend yourself
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:47 PM
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14. I would defend my wife's life. I have something to gain in doing that

but, I'm not going to risk going through what the person I know has gone through if there is nothing to be gained for me.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:53 PM
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15. What I meant is, your wife probably would like to keep you alive
I don't know why you wouldn't consider that a good reason to protect yourself.

I would defend my life, both for myself, and because I wouldn't want to leave my wife a widow.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:00 PM
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17. I'd give someone all my money/belongings, not shoot them.
Most robberies don't involve murder also. I'd not shoot someone who only wanted my stuff.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:18 PM
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19. The problem is that you have no way to know what the perps intent is.
And if you're not armed you don't have any other option anyway.

Regards, Mugu
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:24 PM
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20. So you wouldn't shoot somone until they were actually trying to kill you?
Not because they were just robbing you, since you wouldn't know their intent yet?
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:17 PM
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23. Your interpretation of my post is the exact opposite of my intent.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:55 PM
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27. So do you mean that because you don't know their intent, you'll just shoot and kill them?
Since that is the opposite of what I wrote? Don't wait to see what their intent is, but kill them?
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:09 PM
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31. It would be a very bad plan to come to my home or place of business
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:17 PM by Mugu
and have me get so much as a hint that the intent was mischief. I will not give up my valuables without a fight if I believe that I can prevail.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:12 PM
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32. delete. Not worth it
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:19 PM by uppityperson
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:21 PM
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34. Also delete, agreed.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:22 PM by Mugu
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 AM
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37. We have other things to work on, not bickering here.
It takes all kinds of people to make the world work, and, so long as you are basically a decent person, we work together. Peace.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:55 AM
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38. Very much agree.
Cheers, Mugu
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 08:28 PM
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35. Once someone pulls a gun in the commission of a crime all bets are off
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 08:31 PM by Mike Daniels
Once a perp pulls a gun in the commission of the crime they have proven that their minimum intent is to intimidate through the threat of violence.

At that point, they have sacrificed any benefit of the doubt anyone owes them and if they catch a bullet that's one less waste of life society has to worry about.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:30 PM
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21. I'm not giving anyone my money. I don't even like giving people my money when I'm buying something
I want.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:49 PM
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22. Didn't say I like it, but I'd rather do that than live with having killed someone.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:59 PM
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28. Except that one in CH where they shot the girl, and that other..
etc.. Gun in possession in my home, approaching car, etc is intent.

I would not shoot a person in my driveway stealing my car. Once they cross the line into my home new rules apply.

You do not enter a persons home without intent.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:15 PM
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33. Except for that one in (pick a place) where they just got robbed...
I've got those stories too, including close friends who were robbed at home and not shot. I would give someone all my stuff rather than kill them. But hey, that's just me.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:01 PM
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7. Man opens fire at Santa Maria junk yard, shoots and kills 4
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:15 PM
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10. Didn't forget, didn't see it until you posted it.
A very sad story.

Regards, Mugu
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RadioactiveCarrot Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:01 PM
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11. Wow.
Some of the comments to that article...

You can almost smell the high school locker room through the screen, for all the bravado and bullshit.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:55 PM
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16. Other than the smell of sweat socks, what's wrong with the store-owner's actions?
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RadioactiveCarrot Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:04 PM
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30. Nothing is wrong with 'his' actions.
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 05:06 PM by RadioactiveCarrot
I seem to have replied to the wrong part. Meant to reply to the OP. Oops!

There's some nasty stuff in the comments to the article in the OP link.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:49 PM
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39. Don't worry, I've done the same.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:01 PM
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18. Some more gun headlines today..
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:51 AM
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36. And from Virginia Beach: Beach police seek gunman; at least 2 shot
http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-now-beachshooting-0319,0,4584032.story

Seems many more weren't "protected" by guns, than the alternative...
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:19 PM
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13. three cheers for a good plan well executed
if it was up to me, i'd give the dude a medal, he IS a hero, who knows what the armed robber would have done if not stopped

too many armed robbers kill, that way no witnesses
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:30 PM
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24. good
sorry to be crass, but if you walk in somewhere to rob people with a gun and get your ass shot, so be it.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:38 PM
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25. I'm generally against the death penalty.
I make an exception when it is carried out during the commission of the crime.

Regards, Mugu
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 04:44 PM
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26. me too
it's a horrible thing to have to pull one's weapon and shoot someone when they come after you, your loved one's and other innocents like what happened in this case. The only thing more horrible I could imagine would be finding oneself in that same situation without the means to do so.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:02 PM
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29. I would be aiming for his manly parts,,,,that way he don die but will have a hard time fuckn
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