Rape: now women can bite back - damn!

[The Straight Story]

Rape: now women can bite back

The words of a rape victim - "If only I had teeth down there" - have inspired the design of a new anti-rape device.

Rapex - dubbed the 'rape trap' - is a product worn internally by women. The hollow inside is lined with rows of razor-sharp hooks, which are designed to latch on to a rapist's penis during penetration. They can only be removed by a doctor.

The product will be on the shelves of South African chemists and supermarkets later this month. South African mother-of-two Sonette Ehlers developed the original prototype in 2005 but has struggled to get it patented and approved for sale, not least because of staunch opposition from feminist groups.

"Vengeful, horrible, and disgusting," was the response from Charlene Smith, one of South Africa's leading anti-rape campaigners. Lisa Vetten, of the Centre of Violence and Reconciliation in Johannesburg, says: "This is like going back to the days when women were forced to wear chastity belts. It is a terrifying thought that women are being made to adapt to rape."



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[ingac70]

1. Cool!!! n/t

[Bonobo]

2. They should make one for guys in prison too.

[virtualobserver]

3. that sounds very dangerous for the woman involved

a violent rapist that has penetrated and can't get away?

[ingac70]

6. It will come out on his....

wee wee. Won't stay in....

[virtualobserver]

12. that's better

but I would still be worried about violence in that circumstance

[Warpy]

40. I think he'd be a little preoccupied

by all the porcupine quills in his dong.

If rapists know about this thing, they'll just remove it. That's the main problem I see with it.

[undeterred]

28. or he can always cut it off and leave

:shrug:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

7. That's what I'm worried about.

I don't oppose the concept, but I worry about the potential hazards to the woman wearing one.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Yeah, how safe can it be for her??? *ouch*

[ingac70]

18. It's silicone...

The barbs are on the inside of it... that pic is blown up for detail...

[Mugu]

22. If it gets to the point that he is trapped in this device,

the situation has already become dangerously violent. She at least has the option to warn him if she believes that an escalation of violence is possible.

Regards, Mugu

[mrreowwr_kittty]

25. Yeah, and potential rapists might be deterred by just knowing that women might have these devices.

So I see your point. OTOH, they may choose other ways to violate their victims.

[Mugu]

27. I wish that there was a better solution,

but I can't think of one.

Regards, Mugu

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

56. Same argument they make about guns

Criminals are deterred by knowing someone may have a gun. On a medical note though, from experience, pain is quick to subdue any erection and it would appear that once the erection was gone the device would be able to be removed. Disclaimer here, I have not looked at the device closely to see if this is in fact possible. I hope my wife doesn't see this, it would make for one heck of a practical joke. Try explaining that to the doctor. On a serious note, having dated 2 women who were victims of rape I wish the thing would do more damage, maybe an exploding die pack with shrapnel that goes off when the victim is a safe distance away. Then the guy would be real popular in prison.


David

[Lorien]

8. I think that it would come out of her fairly easily

and remain attached to him, allowing her to escape.

[ingac70]

11. Yep. That is exactly it. n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. I remember hearing about it before. It might stop the rape but

not sure it will keep the guy from killing his victim. :(

[ingac70]

9. He'll be too worried over his package, most likely. n/t

[readmoreoften]

10. Yes, actually, most men are pretty weak when their penis has barbs in it. /nt

[Oeditpus Rex]

48. Meh

A Real Man would just pull 'em out.









With his teeth.

[orleans]

65. yes, i remember we all talked about it here when it was first invented

and hit the news. i don't recall what the consensus was--or if there was a consensus. and i remember someone saying it might also infuriate the guy enough to kill his victim.

[Lithos]

5. Mixed emotions

Would love to see the rapist get their own, but worried that it may cause the additional (recognizing that rape and murder - either directly or via disease - are often part of the same event) murders of women by men who lash out in an escalated retribution.

[El Pinko]

13. I don't know what I think of this device...

...but it's truly tragic if rape is indeed so commonplace that women would consider wearing something that would probably be quite uncomfortable as a matter of course.

[GreenPartyVoter]

15. Yes, beyond tragic

[The Straight Story]

17. So true my friend

what a sad world we live in.

[Lithos]

24. I agree with you there

It is a very strong commentary on a very tragic situation. Because there appears to be few recourses available to what is a very all too common of situation, I'm also in no position to judge any woman who decides to wear such a device as a means of self-defense.

[readmoreoften]

16. After watching a movie about black lesbians being gang raped on the streets of South Africa

as punishment for 'trying to be like a man', I'm all for these little contraptions. One of the women in the documentary died of AIDS from a rape. Another said she was on a date and both she and her date were raped. Fuck that. By any means necessary.

[ingac70]

20. "By any means necessary"...

I know that's right.

[Lorien]

23. Young girls also fear walking to and from school in S. Africa

because of the common belief that having sex with a virgin will cure AIDS. A device like this could save many young lives-but yes, it's tragic that someone had to think of it at all.

[frogcycle]

19. might want to consider curare-tipped barbs n/t

[Matariki]

21. Stephenson's book Snow Crash featured a similar device, but with needles holding a narcotic

That knocked the rapist out almost instantly. A much better idea in my opinion...

[backscatter712]

26. Ah, yes, the dentata...

Quite an entertaining series of events around that dentata, no?

[Matariki]

32. Like when she forgot to remove it in the heat of passion for her new boyfriend?

;-)

[Mugu]

36. Then that's a relationship that isn't going to last very long. n/t

[Matariki]

47. I'm referring to a scene in a book

And no, the relationship didn't last very long.

[GreenPartyVoter]

29. That's a possible future option for this thing.. drugs of some sort

[ingac70]

35. feces...

so gangrene sets up in his stuff...

[noamnety]

30. That's a great idea.

I'd be all for that.

I don't understand the "feminist" objections to this, to be honest. It's all well and fine to say we shouldn't have to adapt to rape, but when the alternative at the moment is not adapting, that's not a better option.

[fortyfeetunder]

58. How about ricin-infused barbs?

Ricin almost has no antidote...that'll teach 'em!

[1]

31. i'm not a woman, but...

if my choice were a weapon to kill the fucking rapist or a device in my pussy to piss him off so he would kill me? (remember, rape is a crime of control and rage, its not sexual...)

nice idea, fucking up the rapists penis and all. except if you ever employ it, that fucker will kill you.

i vote for getting a gun...

[magellan]

43. Since you're a guy

...think about how much pain this thing would cause and how long it would take for you to do anything but stop screaming. By then, the woman is gone.

[lonestarnot]

72. long gone to get her gun and watch writhing for a few minutes before she

puts him out of his misery.

[Warpy]

33. Vengeful, horrible and disgusting

that applies to the hideous crime known as rape.

Young girls are especially vulnerable in South Africa because folk medicine says sex, even unwilling sex, with a virgin will cure AIDS.

Little girls of all ages there are being raped by HIV positive men because of this.

I think this thing is awful. I know why it was developed.

I would just expect any rapist to remove it, first.

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[ingac70]

37. Before or after...

you screamed like a bitch, freaking out over your tool?

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[1]

39. that makes it better?

just before you die you can have a chuckle about that?

invest in a .38 and blow a hole in that fucker's head.

then we can both laugh and you will still be alive.

[Matariki]

41. What a despicable and utterly creepy post.

I hope you live the life you deserve.

[1]

44. i think the post was was just trying to state what other possible outcomes might be...

for all of the HELL YEAH! in this thread, there is another reality.

one you just might want to consider before being so simple and "utterly creeped out"...

[Matariki]

45. The poster could have chosen better words than "if a woman I raped"

if that's the case.

Rape is a very sensitive topic for many women, considering the statistics...

[1]

49. ok, i agree...

i was just thinking of the eventual outcome.

i am a big believer of women fucking up that violator. killing him. putting a bullet in his head. stabbing him. poking his eyes out...

i just don't like this idea of this "land mine" in your pussy that's just going to piss him off and escalate things.

[Matariki]

50. And I agree with that

The possible backlash from this is more than obvious.

That's why I posted the idea from Neil Stephenson's story upthread - a similar device that knocked the rapist out almost instantly.

Also, if these things became common enough that a rapist thought to check before hand, well that would probably not be very helpful.

[morgan2]

51. its a stupid product preying on woman's fears

theres a million things that'd be more effective. It seems like something they're marketing at woman who've already been raped and are still terrified. Its a ridiculous product. Like you said if it was ever used by a lot of people, any rapist would check for it.

[1]

52. my little sister carries a gun...

i don't own any guns.

but i pity the man that messes with my little sister. he will be dead.

maybe if the teeth on that device should be infused with some kind of fast acting poison that kills on contact. that i could get behind.




but then what if you meet that really hot guy and things get hot an heavy in a hurry and you forget.. and then you think... WAIT! uuuggghhh...

too late.

[Matariki]

53. Yup. That's what happened in the Neil Stephenson book

but it was only a narcotic that knocked the person out. Snow Crash - great book.

I put a guy in the hospital who broke into my house at 4am and tried to rape me. I also learned that the *idea* of killing someone is a lot easier than actually doing it.

[1]

57. ok...

"I put a guy in the hospital who broke into my house at 4am and tried to rape me."

hospital is good.

i prefer dead, but i understand your humanity...

[RadiationTherapy]

73. Jeepers. Is that a real quote?

I used to have issues not thinking before I speak, but not with the latency and choice of a chat board!

Wowsers.

[Book Lover]

66. How special that you seem to have thought this one through

Hasn't anyone else altered on this post?

[Firespirit]

42. My first thought was "eurgh" but then I realized it's just a different weapon

Carrying pepper spray or a knife or gun is also "adapting to rape" -- or rather, adapting to the risk of rape. I would personally choose a more conventional weapon than this thing, but to each her own, and the situation in South Africa is far worse than here.

[Quantess]

46. There have been urban legends about overseas hookers with traps in their vaginas.

My friend's dad served in Vietnam for a little bit, and he had stories about that. Big stories to tell!

[Bright Eyes]

54. How many women are actually going to 'wear' that?

[Quantess]

55. Excellent question. More like,

who is going to make her wear that?

[BlooInBloo]

59. I'm not sure how jazzed I'd be to put razor blades in my hoohah if I were a woman....

... But then again, I'm not a woman.

[krispos42]

60. How does it stay in?

Not having a vagina, I don't know these things, but it seems to me that it would slide out while walking around, and then just kind of be half-in, half-out. And that does not sound particularly comfortable!

[Quantess]

61. LOL! krispos42, that's funny!

Might just be a DUZY, who knows.
Anyway, nobody likes it. That's the bottom line.

[krispos42]

62. Yet the question stands...

How does it stay in????

[pitohui]

68. how do tampons stay in?

some questions are silly on the face of it, haven't you ever met a woman?

objects can stay in and yeah you can even walk or jog or swim, imagine that!

[krispos42]

70. A tampon does not run the length of the vagina

It is in the middle of the vagina. Like a snake swallowing a rabbit.

And a tampon is absorbant, so it swells a little.



This "dicktrap" protrudes out, and it's non-porous. Other non-porous items that I've seen protruding out of vaginas slide out unless held in place.

Hence the question.

It is held in with underwear? Is there harness? Are there nubs on the outside to hold things in place?

[Quantess]

76. Your imagination is funny, and yet, reasonable and precise.

I'm guessing that a chastity belt would hold the damned dick-trap in place while you're walking around.

Edit: and I repeat, this sounds like an Urban Legend.

[Name removed]

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[Quantess]

64. It would be very helpful to everyone, since many of us are hopelessly outdated,

Just tell us what you know, instead of being snarky.

[jmowreader]

67. Are you supposed to wear this thing all the time,

or just when you leave the house?

This thing will be in all the papers, on television, billboards, everywhere. All these media will be saying the same thing: "Rapists, be sure to check for a Rapex first."

Besides, rape is a crime of violence, not a crime of sex. It's just as easy and maybe more effective to slash up a woman's face with a knife.

[pitohui]

69. this is in south africa and i'm not sure you're actually supposed to wear the thing at all

i'm thinking it's more out there to create some uncertainty that you MIGHT be wearing it

yeah, yeah, rape is a crime of violence but it is also a crime of sex -- some rapists are in a fantasy world and think the woman really wants it (in other words they're insane) and cutting a woman's face up is not a turn-on and interferes with their fantasy, there are different kinds of rapists and while the psychopath you describe can never be deterred except at gunpoint perhaps some of the others can be deterred

a stalker/date rapist who can't hear the word "no" might accept "my dad makes me wear this," no, it wouldn't stop all rape, but it might deter some? :shrug:

the rate of hiv/aids is sky high with several hundred people dying every day in johannesburg or so i was told when i was there, any rape can be a death sentence for the woman

i don't really think this device is the answer or that woman are wearing it but if it causes some creep to be fearful and set aside his plans for the evening, okay

[Yavin4]

71. Um, This Device Won't Work

Just like anti-car theft devices, the serious criminal will find a work around. They will penetrate their victims with an alternative device first. Thus, allowing this device to chomp on that. Withdraw it, and then penetrate the victim.

I fear that this may give potential rape victims a fals sense of security.

[Habibi]

74. Plus, the vagina isn't always the only orifice penetrated during rape.

[Yavin4]

75. That Too

This device is a terrible idea.

[Frank Cannon]

81. Yep

I actually can't believe this thing really exists.

[uppityperson]

82. Reading through the replies and no one up 'til you posted on this, was my first thought

other things than penises get stuck into women's vaginas. Rape isn't just about putting a penis into a vagina.

[BoneDaddy]

77. WTF?

The amount of cognitive dissonance, denial and unconsciousness is amazing in here. No one is pro-rape, but to turn this horrible situation into one where you can fantasize about castrating or cutting the penis of men is sick if you choose to glorify in it.

[seabeyond]

79. surely if a man rapes a female, his penis isnt the priority. way at the

bottom of the list for me. i dont have a set opinion on this gadget.... but i know it isnt concern for a rapists penis.

[BoneDaddy]

84. Missed my point as usual

if such a device could be feasibly used to protect a woman, isn't the issue. my issue is the bloodlust from people on this board and the sick fascination about male mutilation that bothers me.

[stlsaxman]

78. This will anger the rapist to the point of murdering the victim.

worse still in a gang-rape scenario. no good can come from this.

[Wizard777]

80. This is nothing. You should see some of the medieval devices they had way back when.

One was a mini guillotine that would cut it off. It was activated by muscular contraction.

[Quantess]

83. These are known as urban legends.

Yours is the funniest.
:rofl: