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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:14 PM
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The Crematorium at Abu Ghraib- The woman who took the pictures
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:57 PM by Ichingcarpenter
Exposure
The woman behind the camera at Abu Ghraib.
by Philip Gourevitch and Errol Morris

"Its official name was Forward Operating Base Abu Ghraib. Never mind that military doctrine and the Geneva Conventions forbid holding prisoners in a combat zone, and require that they be sped to the rear; you had to make the opposite sort of journey to get to Abu Ghraib. You had to travel along some of the deadliest roads in the country, constantly bombed and frequently ambushed, into the Sunni Triangle. The prison squatted on the desert, a wall of sheer concrete traced with barbed wire, picketed by watchtowers. “Like something from a Mad Max movie,” Sergeant Javal Davis, of the 372nd, said. “Just like that—like, medieval.”

There were more than two and a half miles of wall with twenty-four towers, enclosing two hundred and eighty acres of prison ground. And inside, Davis said, “it’s nothing but rubble, blown-up buildings, dogs running all over the place, rabid dogs, burnt remains. The stench was unbearable: urine, feces, body rot.

”The prisoners—several thousand of them, clad in orange—were crowded behind concertina wire. “The encampment they were in when we saw it at first looked like one of those Hitler things, like a concentration camp, almost,” Davis said."

Yes, a concentration camp is exactly what these "Hitler things" are called, only these come complete with the US flag and words of freedom. But wait my friends, this is about to get a whole lot worse than any American could have imagined of "freedom marching." This freedom, however, is decked out in lead boots, marching:

"Nobody had expected luxury at Saddam Hussein’s old prison, but morale was low to begin with—the M.P.s just wanted to know when they were going home—and there was something about living in cells at Abu Ghraib that never felt right.

“We had some kind of incinerator at the end of our building,” Specialist Megan Ambuhl said. “It was this huge circular thing. We just didn’t know what was incinerated in there. It could have been people, for all we knew—bodies.” Sergeant Davis was not in doubt. “It had bones in it,” he said, and he called it the crematorium. “But hey, you’re at war,” he said. “Suck it up or drive on.”

(And then a plank in reason broke...)

"Of course, the prisoners in the tented camps couldn’t move, and as mortars kept falling on Abu Ghraib, prisoners kept getting killed and maimed. These casualties were promptly recorded in Serious Incident Reports on the military security networks. Then the dead were removed and their remains were sent to a morgue, while the wounded were treated at the prison clinic or, if the damage was severe, evacuated to a hospital before being returned to the camps. The Americans running the prison knew that it was their duty to protect their prisoners, and they knew that at Abu Ghraib that was impossible."

<snip>

The authorization of torture and the decriminalization of cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of captives in wartime have been among the defining legacies of the current Administration; and the rules of interrogation that produced the abuses documented on the M.I. block in the fall of 2003 were the direct expression of the hostility toward international law and military doctrine that was found in the White House, the Vice-President’s office, and at the highest levels of the Justice and Defense Departments."

(A Service, like a Drum – Kept beating – beating – till I thought My Mind was going numb –)

"The M.P.s on the M.I. cellblock never learned the prisoners’ names. Officially, they referred to their wards by their five-digit prison numbers, but the numbering system was confusing, and the numbers told you nothing about a person, which made them hard to remember. So the soldiers gave the prisoners nicknames based on their looks and their behavior.

A prisoner who made a shank and tried to stab someone was Shank, and a prisoner who got hold of a razor blade and cut himself was called Slash. A prisoner who kept spraying himself and his cell with water and was always asking for a broom was Mr. Clean. A prisoner who repeatedly soaked his mattress with water was Swamp Thing."

(As all the Heavens were a Bell, And Being, but an Ear, And I, and Silence, some strange Race Wrecked, solitary, here –)

"And you could inflict pain. “You also had stress positions, and you escalated the stress positions,” Davis said. “Hand-cuffs behind their backs, high up, in very uncomfortable positions, or chained down. Then you had the submersion. You put the people in garbage cans, and you’d put ice in it, and water. Or stick them underneath the shower spigot naked. They’d be freezing.” It was a routine, he said: “Open a window while it was, like, forty degrees outside and watch them disappear into themselves . . . before they go into shock.”'


ON edited this was Larisa Alexandrova's blog the owner of RAWSTORY.COM and it was her summation of the article
http://www.atlargely.com/2008/03/and-then-a-plan.html


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12 pages of the story from the New Yorker

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/24/080324fa_fact_gourevitch


I AM IN TEARS!!!!!!!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:16 PM
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1. So where did we end up on the discussion about supporting the troops?
You know, with the torture, and concentration camp thing, and, I don't know, atrocities?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:23 PM
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4. I am emotionally distraught after reading this
Great reporting, but a kick in my ass. I'm still tearing up.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:19 PM
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2. WTF!
I do not use strong words but are we so helpless that we cannot stop the atrocities inflicted by our fascist leaders? Are people too frightened?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:21 PM
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3. Hw oh how will we ever redeem ourselves in the Community of Nations?
This stink covers us and clings to our very souls.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:45 PM
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7. annabanana
annabanana

It took Germany 60 year to redeem themselves from the Concentration Camps in the 1930-1940s.. And even today, the whole time with Hitlers is a very sour subject when it come to germans today. Even 60 year after the war ended, many, if most german born after 1945 is not proud, but shamefully about the whole affair...


We must hope that the road to redemption, and US coming back to the Community of Nation are not that long.. But after this regime of your, the whole subject would not seize to exist just because US want it to be..

When your Madam Speaker was telling the world, that China have to respect Human rights in Tibet.. The whole charade was ugly and it tasted not good in my moth, when she tryed to get to the chinese leadership that US want China to respect Tibet, and maybe even end the occupation of Tibet.. It was not as in the old good days, when US could stand on the high ground, and tell the rest of the world to behave....

This time around, it was just flat, and sound bad.. With a foul taste in my mouth anyway...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad English, not my native language
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:49 PM
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8. The moral abyss of our nation are photographed and reported
by the horrors of Abu Ghraib.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:34 PM
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5. New Yorker Movie Review
for Taxi to the Dark Side is in the same issue.
What happened to one man - he can no longer speak for himself but the documentary sure does. He was innocent.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:36 PM
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6. "Arbeit Macht Frei," eh?
Good ol' different-from-the-bad-guys America...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:58 PM
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9. I edited this with a statement in the OP and gave Larisa her accolade
for pointing out this important story.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:14 PM
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10. when Ws "Voices" tell him you're on a mission from gOD to bomb the Baby's, they get to figur'n they
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 10:18 PM by sam sarrha
can get extra points if they torture to death the mothers and older children too.. when you know your Commander In Chief is totally bat shit crazy..

you just gotta figure the sky is the limit.. that there is a mandate to out-do him and everyone else, to please him...
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:18 PM
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11. Maybe one day we can resurrect this nation's soul
but I think our transgressions must be Weighed and Judged before the World
before this can happen.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:42 PM
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12. we havent seen anything yet.... the second set of abu tapes showed children/women raped, 7 year old
dead girl tortured to death beong cut up with a chainsaw for convient disposal...

it was said the tapes were full of little boys shreaking being raped.. were they being sent to the White House for sexual enjoyment..

this link contains some graphic photos of torture.. tame compared to extreme birth defects caused by depleted uranium,..the guy shaking W's hand is known to vidiotape boilong people to death to watch later while masturbating
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3943.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/feb/13/nickpatonwalsh

the Boys Town child prostitution ring was discovered on Poppy's watch,
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/boys_town_abuse.htm

http://noworldsystem.com/category/boystown/
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews2/boystown/
http://www.tarpley.net/bush21.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=boys+town+prostution+ring&btnG=Google+Search

there is something very sick about the whole family... gets sicker every day


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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:38 AM
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13. I remember that people on DU expected those tapes to be released & it would bring down * & Co.
But-Nothing will bring them down because the majority of Congress & the corporate media whores are COMPLICIT!!!

THEY ARE ALL EVIL EVIL EVIL BASTARDS! :grr:

p.s. Don't forget Jeff Gannon and his 200+ visits to the White House! That went NOWHERE too!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:49 AM
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15. Seymour Hersh talked about the tapes and more photos.
But they were never released. He has done the stellar reporting on illegal war crimes for several decades at The New Yorker. He was the original reporter on the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. And a certain future General named Colin Powell covered it up.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:56 AM
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16. Morning kick and I hope viewing these tapes and photographs
will be required in American High School, so that before they can
join the Army they can see another brochure that the Army
doesn't want them to see.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:41 AM
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14. What SICK MO FOs! Doubt we will see this on the evening news!
:grr:

:cry:
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