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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:35 PM
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How come Easter is so much earlier than Passover in 2008?
I didn't think that was possible since the two stories are so intertwined.....
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:37 PM
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1. It's not the stories, in this case -- J.C.'s attendance at a seder notwithstanding...
It's the different calendars -- Gregorian vs. Hebrew...

Normally, they're close. Not this year. This link might help:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3043372
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:38 PM
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2. easter is always the first Sunday after the first full moon of spring
since that is the way the pagans whom the holiday was appropriated from celebrated it.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:38 PM
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3. Check this out
http://www.factmonster.com/spot/easter1.html

2 different Easters, I never knew.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:39 PM
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4. Well, Easter is a 'moveable feast' - the centerpiece
around which all other moveable feasts are placed.

Computus (Latin for computation) is the calculation of the date of Easter in the Christian calendar. The name has been used for this procedure since the early Middle Ages, as it was one of the most important computations of the age.

The canonical rule is that Easter day is the first Sunday after the 14th day of the lunar month (the nominal full moon) that falls on or after 21 March (nominally the day of the vernal equinox). For determining the feast, Christian churches settled on a method to define a reckoned "ecclesiastical" full moon, rather than observations of the true Moon as the Jews did at the time. Eastern Orthodox Christians calculate the fixed date of 21 March according to the Julian Calendar rather than the modern Gregorian Calendar, and observe the additional rule that Easter may not precede or coincide with the first day of the Jewish Passover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computus
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nmvisitor Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:45 PM
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5. There's a weird rule for Easter
This year's Easter is on 03/23, which is only one day after the very earliest day on which it can fall. Easter can fall anywhere between 03/22 and 04/25, based a really odd formula: Easter is the first Sunday after the first full moon after (or the same day) as the spring equinox. Sounds pretty pagan to me, but then I'm an atheist.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:59 PM
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6. I've always been amused that the holiest of the Christian holidays depends on the pagan moon.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:22 PM
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11. Easter is nine months from Christmas.
And riddled with fertility symbols. Not that that means anything to Christians.

Just as the fun stuff with the phallic Maypole is nine months from Imbolc on February 1.

One can only assume, before the Christians spoiled everything, that the annual temptations in the garden of Gethsemane were much more of a party.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:11 PM
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8. And...it's on my birthday! A once in a lifetime event!
My birthday has never been on Easter since 1913 and won't fall on Easter again until 2160 !
I think that is pretty cool :)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:16 PM
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9. Happy Birthday!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:10 PM
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7. Jewish Holidays Are Based On The Lunar Calendar
Days can move around quite a bit, because 28-day months don't cleanly fit into a solar year. They drift so far apart that an entire leap month gets added every two or three years.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:18 PM
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10. Adar I & II on leap years
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:30 PM
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13. Adar AND Adar?
And what leaps into my mind? "This is my brother, Darryl. And this is my other brother, Darryl."

Two months with the same name? Couldn't they have run, I dunno, a contest? If they just couldn't think of anything?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:35 PM
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14. It is to account for the difference between the lunar and gregorian calendars
Adar II is added on leap years to bring them back into sync.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:36 PM
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15. BTW -- I didn't miss the Bob Newhart reference
one of the funniest lines in teevee ever. :D
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:23 PM
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12. Passover is determined by the Jewish calendar
which is a lunar calendar that corrects itself by adding a second month of Adar periodically, which I think they did this year. This is about as far off as they can be. Easter has its own determination that is not based on the Jewish calendar.
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