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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:05 AM
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GOP slimeball initiated Spitzer hit job, er, 'investigation'
According to various media accounts -- including the New York Times -- the investigation that led to the Spitzer scandal, and his eventual resignation, was triggered by a suspicious financial transaction report from North Fork Bank. A report in the Friday night news dump at the Miami Herald the case of the former New York governor seems more likely to have been a political hit job:

Almost four months before Gov. Eliot Spitzer resigned in a sex scandal, a lawyer for Republican political operative Roger Stone sent a letter to the FBI alleging that Spitzer ''used the services of high-priced call girls'' while in Florida.

The letter, dated Nov. 19, said Miami Beach resident Stone learned the information from ''a social contact in an adult-themed club.'' It offered one potentially identifying detail: the man in question hadn't taken off his calf-length black socks ``during the sex act.''

Full story here:

http://miaculpa.blogspot.com/2008/03/republican-slime-machine-behind-spitzer.html
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rusty_parts2001 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:06 AM
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1. What a guy!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:46 PM
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17. Who is Roger Stone?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:06 AM
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2. Probably. And Sptizer merrily gave them so much to work with.
He did it to himself.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:09 AM
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4. absolutely correct!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:56 AM
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10. They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:58 AM
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12. That's what I meant with 'probably'. That he was so stupidly arrogant not
to think he would be a target is laughable. It really is.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:20 PM
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22. Exactly.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.
They can both be true.

And now they're trying to smear Paterson out of office. The Thugs are gunning for New York. Is anyone WATCHING this?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:22 PM
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16. Does saying that make you feel all better? You are missing the point.
Of course Spitzer should be held accountable. No one is arguing that, even though you wish someone would so you can claim the high ground. But it appears that the FBI is a tool of the RNC as is the DOJ. That is so much more serious than someone visiting a prostitute. What does the FBI have to say about Jeff Gannon's over one hundred visits to someone in the White House? Jeff Gannon is reported as a male prostitute. Seems the FBI is only investigating Democrats. Is that ok with you?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:57 PM
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23. Oh quit being such a tool. Like my Mom used to say 'if they neighbor kids
were out playing in rush hour traffic does that mean you should run out in the street too'?

Make me feel good? What the fuck does that mean? This whole thing sucks and if you think that the reality of his being such an ass that he thought he could play Mr. Law and Order during the day and Mr. I Need Me an Expensive Whore at night, and not get caught, wasn't a case of his penis over-riding his loyalty to his family, party, and position, then you have some serious problems of your own.

Not one fucking thing that someone else does or did will ever serve as justification for Spitzer's actions.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:35 PM
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27. Sorry, apparently we are on different wave lengths. Never did I say that I believe
Mr. Spitzer's actions are justified. I am begging you to get past his indiscretions and view the bigger picture. The bigger picture looks like the republican party is using the FBI for their own political ends. We know the republican party has used/is using the DOJ for political ends, now it looks like the FBI is a tool of the RNC.

What's this schite about playing in traffic???
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:05 AM
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29. The playing in traffic analogy means that apparently some people
think that just because some republicans are amoral idiots who just happen to get away with their escapades that dems should act the same way and expect to get a pass as well.

As far as the 'bigger picture' is concerned, OF FRIGGIN' COURSE it bothers me that the republicans are using the FBI. But what's amazing is that some people don't expect this shit. Wake up. It is standard operating procedure. Republicans have ALWAYS used the 'intelligence' agencies of this country for their own personal ends. And dems, at least dems with tracable brainwave patters, should fully understand that fact.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:42 PM
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34. I never even came close to suggesting that Spitzer should "expect to get
a pass". And excuse me if I am concerned about the republicans using the FBI for political. Just because they have always done so, don't make it acceptable.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:45 AM
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32. Thank you.
Had Spitzer committed armed robbery, I wouldn't much care about the political affiliation of the person who called the police.

This was a victimless crime, but I can't muster much outrage over a GOP operative's pushing it for political advantage.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:08 AM
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3. There wouldn't
have been this 'hit' if there was no bulls eye. I've got little sympathy for Spitzer. He let us all down IMHO.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:11 AM
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5. Stone has quite the resume.

"By day, Stone was officially a scheduler in the Nixon campaign. "By night, I'm trafficking in the black arts. Nixon's people were obsessed with intelligence.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:02 AM
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13. So... could one's bad karma be brought back upon himself?
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 11:04 AM by calimary
Just asking...

Seems like one of these days, what this roger "black arts" stone indulges in could very well come back to bite him in the ass.

One hopes, anyway.

SOMEBODY'S gotta have dirt on a guy this filthy, 'eh?

I don't see why somebody on our side can't start dishing it back out on them. Why the hell can't Mark Penn or somebody get to work on that? Do something good and beneficial for a change. Put his own considerable shit-talents to good use for once.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:20 PM
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18. Stone's resume is colorful, too.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:13 AM
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6. Stone has been in every GOP dirty trick for years.
And had just been sent packing over another Spitzer vs Joe Bruno, GOP minority leader dirty trick. Meaning the GOP have been on him since Spitzer took office.

Why did Spitzer and Clinton have to be so reckless and selfish.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:39 AM
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7. I guess its a matter of ego and narcissism. What a dangerous and selfish
game they played considering the consequences and embarrassment to the Party.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:42 AM
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8. He really likes his socks!
"...hadn't taken off his calf-length black socks ``during the sex act.''"
:rofl:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:24 PM
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20. Nooooooo!
Aha ha hahahahahhahahha


every cliche about men during sex is suddenly coming true! :rofl:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:55 AM
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9. K&R #4 for, he was a frequent guest for F***er CARLSON
and F****er's daddy, Richard CARLSON, was the leaker to Matt PUDGE of the FAKE story of Sid BLUMENTHAL's supposedly beating his wife. Unlike John FUND, ghost writer of LIMBOsevic's first couple of books, who was involved in some kind of mother-daughter police reports.

The Roger STONE connection was mentioned by Mistah KURTZ on his "Reliable Sources" this A.M.



*********QUOTE******

"Brooks Bros Riot" - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31074-2005Jan23.html

As we begin the second Bush administration, let's take a moment to reflect upon one of the most historic episodes of the 2000 battle for the White House -- the now-legendary "Brooks Brothers Riot" at the Miami-Dade County polling headquarters



How does he get to listed as "Sexual Orientation: Straight" if he is advertising, "We are hot, athletic and very fit. We are seeking similar couples or exceptional muscular, well hung, single men."



*******QUOTE*******

Google Search on "Nydia Stone": http://www.google.com/search?q=Nydia+Stone&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/4/214654/554

It's Elementary! Nydia Stone, Cuban, is Lucy Ramirez & Roger Stone is "unknown man" !

Mr. Stone is notorious for his electioneering dirty tricks for years. His first election fraud was to open a bank account with a phony name called The Young Socialist Alliance and send a campaign contribution to Pete McCloskey, an antiwar Republican in the Seventies, who was thinking of running against Nixon in 1972. As soon as the check cleared Stone then promptly called the press, claiming funding from Socialists for McCloskey!

Mr. Stone next honed his dirty tricks skills while working with Karl Rove in the Nixon White House. Need I say more? Please forgive me then, for I shall.

We also know Mr. Stone planted an Buchanan child story in the Washington Post to sink Pat Buchanan's 1992 campaign for President and then made a flyer about it, according to Mattie Lovlar, on retainer to Stone at the time who said he "worked at planting the story". Stone denied it saying: "I remember getting a call or two saying this stuff was out there. If there was a flyer, it wasn't from Roger Stone."

In 2000, Baker calls MacDougald, Stone to Miami to organize the riot that stole the election for Bush. Nydia Stone organizes the Cubans who participated. Afterwards Dick Cheney himself called Mr. Stone and asked him what he wanted for his sterling service to the gang, didn't he Roger? Stone soon had lucrative consulting contracts adding up to tens of millions of dollars from Indian gaming concerns. .... (Much more)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=86847

Gannon/Rove/Stone TANG Forgeries Timeline (must-read!)
Source: daily kos
URL Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/4/122247/7113
Published: Mar 4, 2005
Author: sherlock google
Post Date: 2005-03-04 15:18:38 by hfrancis
11 Comments


What follows is a timeline based on the research of different diaries here at dKOS. The timeline reveals the pattern of dirty tricks perpetrated by Karl Rove and Roger Stone, and how the TANG Forgeries fit right into their M.O. of forging documents with zingers in them and then tipping off the press to blow apart their political opponents. Some of this has been proved and some is conjecture, and it should be noted that no one has yet shown the picture above to Burkett to see if he can ID Stone. Plus someone else might have seen Stone at the Livestock Show--if it was him--because the Unknown Man supposedly asked around as to where he could find Burkett. So we need to dig in here and find out what else is out there to put into this timeline. It could lead to the truth. ....



http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000047703/

Born: 1952


Gender: Male
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Government
Party Affiliation: Republican

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Campaign consultant, GOP dirty trickster

Longtime political operative and no stranger to dirty tricks. Worked for Chuck Colson in 1972 at the Committee to Re-Elect the President (i.e. Nixon). Helped strategize for the Reagan presidential campaign and Arlen Specter's Senate campaign. Worked on Bob Dole and Donald Trump's unsuccessful presidential campaigns. Also appears to have been helping Al Sharpton's 2004 presidential campaign, for some reason.

In 1996, Roger and his wife Nydia purportedly placed an ad in Swing Fever magazine looking for single men and couples to join them in group sex. According to reporting in the National Enquirer and the Star, the copy proclaimed:


C-161,787-DC* INSATIABLE COUPLE
We are hot, athletic and very fit. We are seeking similar couples or exceptional muscular, well hung, single men. She's 40DD-24-36 and bi. She loves to fuck hard and deep. He's 195 lbs., trim, muscular and 8" +. She prefers jocks, miliary men, and body builders. No fat people or smokers need respond. Send photo and phone. No photo, no response! We are interested in DC, VA, MD, NYC, Miami, and LA.

VOICE MAIL 12209

**********UNQUOTE********
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:38 PM
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28. got his finger in a whole lotta pies....
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:57 AM
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11. Amazing
I have never heard of Rodger Stone.

A person without a single redeeming trait whatsoever. He must leave a trail of slime wherever he goes.

The republicans must LOVE him.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:19 PM
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14. Why Roger Stone should be VERY worried...
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 12:19 PM by johnfunk
Roger Stone made the most foolish miscalculation of his reptilian life by setting into motion the wheels that drove Spitzer from office.

There are exactly five things you need to know about Eliot Spitzer:
  • he is tenacious;
  • he is ruthless when provoked;
  • he is very rich;
  • he has assembled a legal team that not only knows criminal defense but aggressive litigation;
  • and he has a Rolodex that is the envy of all but, say, less than half a dozen top players in each political party.
With all this new spare time on his hands, Spitzer has already made his first moves. (Here's a hint: who were the sources that tipped off the Times, and why the 'tied to a prostitution ring' wording that implies something different that employing the services of a high-end call-girl? Bet your bottom dollar one was Stone, but who was the other source -- and what was their relationship with Stone or his associates?).

Spitzer knows that revenge is a dish best served cold, and in copious helpings, and Stone but his party- and DoJ-associated enablers will not be the only ones force-fed payback souflée à la Spitzer.

There have been some interesting rumors in NY's legal community about high-roller Wall Street derivatives crooks and other right-wing apparatchiks close to the ?click">sex-club-loving Stone and his slut wife lawyering up. Hmmm... sounds like some of the GOP's richest "playas" are bracing themselves for a few rocky years, particularly the ones who have frequented at least one of the Stones' favorite "adult" haunts.

:popcorn:

This could end up being a lot more fun than we first thought...
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victordrazen Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:21 PM
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15. I don't have sympathy for him, but
far worse things ae going uninvestigated and
it seems like a lot of powerful with sexual proclivities have taken hits in conjunction with behavior that the administration doesn't like. Therefore, the bigger story to me, is that the investigations are politically motivated and it is naive to dismiss that by saying he "deserved" it.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:07 PM
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36. Yes
Did he do something that was justified in being investigated? Yes, unless you consider there are limited resources to go around and SOMEONE is making the decisions on where to apply those resources. Are these decisions politically motivated? If anyone does not believe so, I question that person's cognitive abilities.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:23 PM
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19. I'd expect Dems to do the same
Fuck Spitzer. He repeatedly hired a hooker. It's as simple as that.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:08 PM
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37. I take it you think the Bush administration then
is no less ethical than any other administration that we've ever had.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:14 PM
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39. No, that's a ridiculous logical fallacy and you don't rate a meaningful reply to garbage like that
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 01:14 PM by DS1
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:32 PM
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21. K and R....n/t
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:35 PM
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24. How did he get Spitzer to hire the hooker?***
nm
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:56 PM
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25. The bank dropped a dime on spitzer in July, 5 months before
the November letter.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:17 PM
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26. Of course
I mean the FBI IS a federal investigative agency. And who is in control of the federal government?



:think:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:19 AM
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30. Spitzer was a very arrogant man who thought he was above the law
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:24 AM
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31. You're going to make new fans for him from our ethics choir, they'll probably
be pissed a Dem didn't turn him in for it, you know it being "in the name of ethics," and all.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:28 AM
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33. When you hand someone ammunition to use against -- don't be surprised if it gets used.

Spitzer = arrogant and it cost him (and us) his career.

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:58 PM
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35. Ok, this is like saying, "The liberals caused Larry Craig to get caught in the bathroom."
And it's stupid. Spitzer let us all down. Of course the GoP was out to get him, he MADE HIS CAREER PROSECUTING THEM. And btw, he even prosecuted the same prostitution ring he got caught spending 80k with.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:13 PM
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38. Local law enforcement v. federal law enforcement
The Republicans rule the executive branch---get it? They have influence over what the FBI and DOJ.
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