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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:35 AM
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Who is Roger Stone, the Long-Time R Dirty-Trickster and Miami Mob Leader?
I'm starting this thread on the infamous DIRTY TRICKSTER rather than place this
on all the redundant threads about Stone reporting Elliot Spitzer to the FBI.

TOPIC: Dirty tricks and the dirty tricksters who work behind the political scenes.
Stone may epitomize this genre of operative better than other "known" figures today, excepting Karl Rove.

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Who is Roger Stone, Jr.? Buckley, Nixon, Reagan, Bush operative.
from Bush vs. Gore, the 'Arkansas Project,' the USA firings, and the Swiftboat Admiral
Jun-02-07 - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1029113)

"Roger J. Stone, Jr. is a long-time Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000. He was also a campaign strategist during the presidential campaigns of Presidents Nixon, Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush. He is the chairman of the Fort Hill Group, a Washington, D.C.-based public affairs firm...." (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Roger_J._Stone,_Jr)

This is another case of illegal and stealth funding. "... During the 2004 presidential primary, Stone served as a behind-the-scenes consultant to black firebrand Al Sharpton's campaign to win the Democratic Party nomination, prompting speculation that Sharpton's campaign was actually a stealth operation to weaken the party's chances of winning in the general election."

Roger Stone, Jr., began his career volunteering for William F. Buckley’s 1965 mayoral campaign, and has since had roles in the presidential campaigns of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. A veteran Republican operative, Stone went to Florida to help the Bush campaign" during the 2000 recount, where he is creditied with organizing the "recount riot." Remember that gaggle of Washington D.C. Congressional aides, the posers pretending to be enraged Floridians, yeah--the guys who got their daily marching orders slipped under hotel doors in envelopes, that's the crew Stone puportedly directed via walkie-talkie from across the street.

Stone has ties to Morton Blackwell's Leadership Institute and started his career in the College Republican National Committee during the Nixon era, when Blackwell "had turned it into a school for political dirty tricks. Both Stone and Blackwell have been closely connected since the 1970's with right-wing fundraiser Richard Viguerie." (http://www.abunchofgreedyrightwingliarswhoworkforwalmart.com/liars.asp?liar=5 )

Richard Viguerie, is connected to Scaife, and like Scaife, has been dubbed "the funding father of the conservative movement". See American Target below.

Stone is associated with the swiftboating of Dan Rather. Check this DU thread: rathergate.com! - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2400623

Mike Krempasky: "I've been using Roger Stone's email system for one of my California statewide campaigns."

And, where o' where is rathergate.com located?
Administrative Contact = Mike Krempasky: contact @rathergate.com
RatherGate
6814 Kincaid Ave
Falls Church, VA 22042

That's the address of "RedState.com - Conservative News and Community and their contact is American Target.
(Also the address used by Thomas Crowe in the list of Boy Scouts of America Troop 654 Counselors.)

American Target "is" Richard Viguerie. Viguerie is connected to Falwell via the "People of Faith 2000" National Advisory Committee. Richard Viguerie is
(http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/falwell2.htm ) "considered the godfather of many conservative and religious right causes, going back to the early 1970s when he began a direct mail operation on behalf of political candidates and groups. He is head of American Target Advertising in Washington, D.C. Viguerie is considered the architect of the alliance between political conservatives and evangelical-fundamentalist Christians; he helped form groups like the American Life Lobby which began training conservative Christians and integrating them into the ranks of the GOP. He also has had contacts within the beltway for nearly three decades, and when not raising money for candidates like Jesse Helms, Viguerie has used his direct mail organization to assist more shadowy groups like the World Anti-Communist League -- described by sociologist and researcher Sarah Diamond as "a multinational network of Nazi war criminals, Latin American death squad leaders, North American racists and anti-Semites, and fascist politicians from every continent..."

Viguerie has also maintained close ties with Rev. Moon's Unification Church cult, which even rescued him from bankruptcy in the 1980s."

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.... http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Feb04/Ireland0221.htm .....
A slash-and-burn Republican black-bag election tamperer and consultant whose mentor was the repulsive Roy Cohn — the redbaiting hatchet man for Senator Joe McCarthy. Stone first made news in the Nixon Watergate scandal, when it was revealed that the 19-year-old apprentice McCarthyite had infiltrated George McGovern’s 1972 presidential campaign as part of CREEP’s sabotage plan. ... Stone helped Ollie North raise money for the Nicaraguan contras, and was a close associate of the notorious Lee Atwater ...

... Jeffrey Toobin ... the 2000 Florida election — details how Stone was summoned by Bush recount chief James Baker to disrupt the vote counting (Stone and his Cuban wife, Nydia, organized a screaming mob of Miami Cubans outside the headquarters of the canvassing board — Stone directed the mob by walkie-talkie from across the street — and intimidated the board into ending the count).....

When Sharpton launched a vicious attack on Howard Dean for his supposed “anti-black agenda,” the man behind the curtain was Stone, who crowed to The New York Times that he “helped set the tone and direction” of the blast at Dean, while the research for it was provided by the man Stone had installed as Sharpton’s campaign manager, Charles Halloran, one of a half-dozen top aides to Sharpton who worked for Stone in previous campaigns....

Stone has acknowledged that he “helped Sharpton” meet the 20-state, $5,000-contribution threshold required for federal matching funds. Example, according to The Voice: “In Florida, Stone’s wife, Nydia; son Scott; daughter-in-law Laurie; mother-in-law Olga Bertran; Stone’s executive assistant Dianne Thorne; Tim Suereth, who lives with Thorne; and Halloran’s mother, all pushed Sharpton comfortably over the threshold, donating $250 apiece .........

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The Sex Scandal That Put Bush in the White House
How GOP operative Roger Stone destroyed the Reform Party in the 2000 presidential campaign
Wayne Barrett, Jessie Singer - May 18th, 2004 - http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0420,barrett,53586,6.html

Pat Buchanan ... seized control of ... the Reform Party ... became the party's presidential nominee ... (and) mysteriously disappeared, getting 2.4 million votes less than Ralph Nader, 80,000 less in Florida alone. ... Stone and Buchanan were aides to Nixon and Reagan, and Stone, also a Bush I campaign veteran, was rewarded for his subterranean 2000 efforts with an appointment to the Department of Interior transition team, which he parlayed into a multimillion dollar business as an Indian gaming consultant ....Buchanan's vanishing act—after Stone cajoled him to run Reform—left nearly a dozen party leaders contacted by the Voice convinced that he and Stone were conscious agents of doom. ...

... "Buchanan hospitality suite" at the Dearborn, Michigan, convention hotel—with soda and hamburgers and occasional champagne—"was paid for by Roger, who, in turn, said he was covering it with Trump's money." .....

Stone(s) ... sacking of the Reform Party may be his lasting legacy.

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....... http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0416,barrett,52802,1.html .....
Roger Stone, the dirty-tricks hobgoblin of Republican politics, has exploited his Bush connections to become an influence-peddling force in the $13 billion Indian gaming industry. Stone's booming business in such a federally regulated enterprise makes his recent pro bono orchestration of Al Sharpton's double-edged presidential campaign an even stranger covert caper.

The longtime GOP consultant's reward for fomenting the "Brooks Brothers mob" that shut down the Miami-Dade recount in 2000 was an invitation within days of Bush's election to serve on the Department of Interior transition working group—helping, in his own words, to staff its Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). Stone has since used this unannounced perch to market himself to tribes and developers from Louisiana to California, earning fat fees and contingent percentages of future casino revenue. Just two of the five deals examined by the Voice are projected to pay him at least $8 million, and perhaps as much as $13 million.

Time, The Washington Post and The New York Times have published exposés about Bush's BIA, with a February story highlighting $45 million in payments to two GOP lobbyists from four tribes since 2001. But no one has focused on Stone's profiteering, which, unlike the payments to registered lobbyists, is not reported on any public filings. .......

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.... http://www.indianz.com/News/2004/001456.asp?print=1 ....
A Republican operative who helped Neal McCaleb and Aurene Martin get their jobs at the Bureau of Indian Affairs admits to orchestrating the campaign to fire former BIA deputy Wayne Smith.

Smith was ousted after letters from Phil Bersinger, a former business partner, surfaced in the spring of 2002. In the letters, Bersinger touted his close connections to Smith, who handled land-into-trust, federal recognition and gaming issues for the BIA.

At the time, Smith was trying to resolve a leadership dispute within a small California tribe. Republican operative Roger Stone worked with one faction of the Buena Vista Rancheria that wants a casino. According to The Village Voice, this faction has a contract to pay Stone a $250,000 retainer plus 7.5 percent of annual gaming revenue from the proposed casino.

When Smith refused to overturn a decision favoring Stone's clients, Stone told The Voice that he "faxed the letters to certain members" of the press, leading to stories in Time Magazine and other outlets. The stories suggested Smith was using his position to help Bersinger hire tribal clients.

Neal McCaleb eventually got rid of Smith

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Trump, Rove, Norton, Barbour, Brulte = Inside Bush's Indian Bureau - A labyrinth of lobbyists is manufacturing millions
Wayne Barrett, Jennifer Suh - April 27th, 2004 - http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0417,barrett,53013,1.html

... Wayne Smith ... the '90s, he'd been chief deputy to California's Republican attorney general ... at 52, he was assistant deputy secretary at Interior, managing the $3.5 billion budget of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) and overseeing the hotly politicized Indian casino industry ...

... in his new job—which he got on the recommendation of a colleague from his AG days, Sue Wooldridge, top aide to Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton. Neal McCaleb, who was Smith's immediate boss and ran BIA, put him in charge of gaming ... BIA remained a bureaucratic land where the only chiefs are buttoned-down lobbyists, raking in millions from tribes whose casinos are virtually franchises to print influence-peddling largesse.

Smith was troubled early ... his office was lobbied on behalf of two tribes by Diane Allbaugh, the wife of Joe Allbaugh, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the 2000 national campaign manager for Bush. Diane Allbaugh, who worked at a firm headed by former Republican National Committee chair Haley Barbour, appeared on behalf of a Louisiana casino developer under contract with the Jena Band of Choctaw Indians and the Paucatuck Eastern Pequots, a Connecticut tribe then tied to Donald Trump. McCaleb urged Smith to take her calls, explaining that he and Joe Allbaugh were old Oklahoma friends and that Allbaugh had "helped convince the White House" to install him at BIA.

... lobbyist who concerned Smith more than any other ... he'd been on the transition working group for Interior, staffing the agency. The dark force of Indian gaming, retained as a hidden consultant by tribes and developers across the country, was Roger Stone, a veteran of eight Republican presidential campaigns and star of the Miami/Dade recount shutdown. Scott Reed is often his up-front lobbyist face.

... Reed began leaning on Smith in late January 2002. Smith even got a note supporting the Stone faction from the Republican leader of the California state senate, Jim Brulte. Stone had recommended the retention of a consulting firm owned by Brulte's former chief of staff, Tom Ross, and Ross wrote the memo summarizing the Buena Vista case that Brulte enclosed. Later in 2002, Stone would host a fundraiser for Brulte at his 40 Central Park South apartment and take Brulte to visit Stone's longtime client Donald Trump. The Brulte intervention sent a particularly strong message to Smith because he'd attended a 2001 Palm Springs meeting involving Karl Rove and a dozen tribes, where Brulte was introduced as "the administration's main man in California—especially for Indian matters." .

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Swiftboating Al Gore from Argentina, SIDE, Israeli wire transfers, spy files, forgery, Bush & Menem
There just is no way to make this stuff up!! This is a court pleading. Unbelievable.

First get some spy files from Israel, alter them to look like Argentine spy files, make them implicate Bush and Menem in corruption, blame Gore for the forged documents. Sound familiar. Did I mention blackmailing bribed journalists and, of course, the perennial covert Republican dirty tricksters. This genre of dirty trick came to be known as "swiftboating" when done to Kerry four years later by the same players!!

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http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/041901.P.pdf
Olavar (Triumph Communications International Group, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v.
Santibañes, Defendant-Appellee, and Ikon Holdings, Inc., t/a Ikon Public Affairs, Dick Morris, Roger Stone, Eileen McGann, John Does, Defendants.

Appeal from the United States District Court Decided: December 1, 2005

Triumph Communications International Group, Incorporated is a corporation that provides political consulting and public relations services and is owned and operated solely by Mattie Lolavar.

In early 2000, Miss Lolavar began discussions with defendant Dick Morris about the possibility of her working with Craig Snyder and defendant Roger Stone, who are partners in defendant IKON Holdings, Inc., another political consulting firm ... about the possibility of Triumph Communications’ assistance with work that IKON was doing for the government of Argentina.
These discussions lead to two contracts ... and provided that Triumph would act as a public relations consultant to "the Secretary of Intelligence of Argentina" as well as arrange various media events...

Miss Lolavar went to Argentina in August 2000 to assist de Santibañes with preparations for his testimony in Argentine congressional hearings inquiring into allegations that he and the Argentine intelligence agency, known as SIDE, were responsible for bribing various Argentine senators in exchange for political support. Morris and Stone assigned other tasks to Miss Lolavar while she was in Argentina. Among other acts, they instructed her to contact SIDE and obtain a list of journalists who accepted bribes from that organization in order to harm the credibility of those same journalists in reporting on a bribery scandal surrounding de Santibañes and President de la Rua, as well as requiring her to spread false information to the press concerning de la Rua’s political opponent, Dr. Carlos Menem. The charges and counter-charges related here are from the papers in the court file, as are the other facts.

A request that occasioned controversy between Miss Lolavar and the defendants was Morris and Stone’s request that she serve as an intermediary in an anonymous wire transfer of funds to an official in Israel. These funds were to be paid to secure intelligence files from the Israeli government to assist de la Rua’s political domestic disputes with Menem, and to imply a corrupt relationship between Menem and George W. Bush, who was then running against Albert Gore for the United States presidency. These files were to be altered by Miss Lolavar to appear to be SIDE documents.

When the defendants became concerned that this plot would be discovered and traced back to them, they ordered Miss Lolavar to orchestrate a press response to blame Vice President Gore for the dissemination of the documents, since it was known to them that the Gore campaign had been attempting to connect Menem with the Bush campaign.

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Afterwords: Roger Stone, Donald Trump, Jack Abramoff, Gaming Gaming, and Scalping the Tribes.

How is it that two consumate Republican insiders, both purported specialists in illegal
funding of campaigns, one a political dirty trickster who stays behind the scenes and
the other a felonious convict linked to the White House political office, each manage
to garner tens of millions of dollars from Indian tribes in the gaming rackets? By
working both sides at once, of course. And, how is it that one gets convicted and goes
to jail while the other keeps getting paid? Who is scalping whom for how much, who has
lost their scalp, who still has theirs, and will Trump's hair survive the scandals?

With all the attention to Abramoff defrauding the Tribes, why isn't there more attention on
who else is involved in all of gaming's political machinations and influence peddling?

Who has lucrative contracts to receive a percentage of the gross from Indian casinos, and
how did they obtain that? Where is all that money going? How much ends up in the coffers of
politicos like Sen. John McCain, and why? Who else is corruptly scalping the Tribes?

And how much of the scalping goes to legal and illegal campaign contributions?

Questions are yet to be answered!!
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:41 AM
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1. wasn't he also involved in a sex scandal?
I just skimmed the original, and did not see it there. But I seem to recall a swinger scandal involving ole Roger Stone and his wife.

I am on the serious.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:00 AM
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3. The original sin was a Swiftboat Sex Act, if I recall all the nuances and positions.
I'm reminded of the humor piece about the smoke-filled back room.

Someone asks, "How many ways we got to get this guy elected?"
An operative says, "I got a list of ten ways."
Someone else says, "The People will vote him in, no problem."
The operative says, "Make that eleven."

This ploy created a new genre of dirty trick, as I recall.
First you join a conservative campaign, and get money tight with candidate.
Then, you get yourself caught in a sex scandal, bombing your candidate's campaign!

This is my rough recall, with a little literary license perhaps.
There is a link in the OP to more.
The "scandal" was about a swingers ad.
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:42 AM
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5. Swingers ad. and HE is the one who finds the hooker link? Hmmmmmm
and it may not be considered a scandal by open minded democrats, but this guys is a neo con looney, and HIS peeps do NOT condone such a thing unless it is with young boys. ;)


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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:46 AM
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2. Kicked, recommended and bookmarked for future reference.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:26 AM
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4. Swiftboating the Florida Supreme Court Justices with illegal funding
Where Did A Republican Party Operative ... Get $150,000 During The 2000 Recount To Finance A Campaign To Oust Florida Supreme Court Justices?
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/09/15_recount.html

... one little operation of the vast right wing conspiracy ... an undertaking that took time at a point the Bush Cartel was afraid that the Florida State Supreme Court would succeed in forcing a recount ... they launched some dirty tricks ... the formation of a supposedly Florida-based group that was allegedly going to work toward the defeat of Florida Supreme Court judges for supporting a recount ...

... the Florida Elections Commission fined Palm Beach County Commissioner Mary McCarty $2,000 for violating state election laws ... certified an "incorrect, false, or incomplete" campaign report ... a mysterious $150,000 loan for a direct mail fundraising campaign that by all accounts came from Roger Stone, Jr., a long-time Republican operative who owns the Washington, D.C.-based Ikon Public Affairs.

... Stone did not explain -- and still has not to this day -- is who instructed him to create the committee and who donated the $150,000 ... committee campaign records listed the $150,000 as a "loan" from Creative Marketing in Alexandria, Va., which doesn’t exist, though it does share the same mailing address as the Stone Group, a fundraising and marketing firm run by Republican activist Ann Stone, Roger’s ex-wife ... "Stone ‘or his organization’ actually paid the $150,000 not to Creative Marketing but to a Virginia company called Unique Graphics and Design ... principals Ann Stone and Lora Lynn Jones ...

... Unique Graphics was not a legal entity ... James A. Baker II ... Bush Jr.’s chief post-election strategist, contacted Stone and asked for his help ... Baker aide Margaret Tutwiler ... said, ‘Mr. Baker would like you to go to Florida,’" ...

Stone had previously worked on the brief presidential campaigns of Sen. Arlen Specter ...
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:44 AM
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6. He's a scumbag like his co-horts Manafort and Black and Atwater before them.
He's a womanizing SOB who deserves to be at the bottom of the Potomac.

And, yeah, I'm saying this from personal knowledge of him and all of tiny cronies at his shithole of a company.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:38 AM
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7. visibility kick
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:55 AM
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8. A Roger thread MUST have pics!1

*********QUOTE******

"Brooks Bros Riot" - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31074-2005Jan23.html

As we begin the second Bush administration, let's take a moment to reflect upon one of the most historic episodes of the 2000 battle for the White House -- the now-legendary "Brooks Brothers Riot" at the Miami-Dade County polling headquarters

(pic of Roger alone and Roger/Nydia), plus History of Roger*******

How does he get to listed as "Sexual Orientation: Straight" if he is advertising, "We are hot, athletic and very fit. We are seeking similar couples or exceptional muscular, well hung, single men."



*******QUOTE*******

Google Search on "Nydia Stone": http://www.google.com/search?q=Nydia+Stone&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/4/214654/554

It's Elementary! Nydia Stone, Cuban, is Lucy Ramirez & Roger Stone is "unknown man" !

Mr. Stone is notorious for his electioneering dirty tricks for years. His first election fraud was to open a bank account with a phony name called The Young Socialist Alliance and send a campaign contribution to Pete McCloskey, an antiwar Republican in the Seventies, who was thinking of running against Nixon in 1972. As soon as the check cleared Stone then promptly called the press, claiming funding from Socialists for McCloskey!

Mr. Stone next honed his dirty tricks skills while working with Karl Rove in the Nixon White House. Need I say more? Please forgive me then, for I shall.

We also know Mr. Stone planted an Buchanan child story in the Washington Post to sink Pat Buchanan's 1992 campaign for President and then made a flyer about it, according to Mattie Lovlar, on retainer to Stone at the time who said he "worked at planting the story". Stone denied it saying: "I remember getting a call or two saying this stuff was out there. If there was a flyer, it wasn't from Roger Stone."

In 2000, Baker calls MacDougald, Stone to Miami to organize the riot that stole the election for Bush. Nydia Stone organizes the Cubans who participated. Afterwards Dick Cheney himself called Mr. Stone and asked him what he wanted for his sterling service to the gang, didn't he Roger? Stone soon had lucrative consulting contracts adding up to tens of millions of dollars from Indian gaming concerns. .... (Much more)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=86847

Gannon/Rove/Stone TANG Forgeries Timeline (must-read!)
Source: daily kos
URL Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/4/122247/7113
Published: Mar 4, 2005
Author: sherlock google
Post Date: 2005-03-04 15:18:38 by hfrancis
11 Comments


What follows is a timeline based on the research of different diaries here at dKOS. The timeline reveals the pattern of dirty tricks perpetrated by Karl Rove and Roger Stone, and how the TANG Forgeries fit right into their M.O. of forging documents with zingers in them and then tipping off the press to blow apart their political opponents. Some of this has been proved and some is conjecture, and it should be noted that no one has yet shown the picture above to Burkett to see if he can ID Stone. Plus someone else might have seen Stone at the Livestock Show--if it was him--because the Unknown Man supposedly asked around as to where he could find Burkett. So we need to dig in here and find out what else is out there to put into this timeline. It could lead to the truth. ....



http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000047703/

Born: 1952


Gender: Male
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Government
Party Affiliation: Republican

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Campaign consultant, GOP dirty trickster

Longtime political operative and no stranger to dirty tricks. Worked for Chuck Colson in 1972 at the Committee to Re-Elect the President (i.e. Nixon). Helped strategize for the Reagan presidential campaign and Arlen Specter's Senate campaign. Worked on Bob Dole and Donald Trump's unsuccessful presidential campaigns. Also appears to have been helping Al Sharpton's 2004 presidential campaign, for some reason.

In 1996, Roger and his wife Nydia purportedly placed an ad in Swing Fever magazine looking for single men and couples to join them in group sex. According to reporting in the National Enquirer and the Star, the copy proclaimed:


C-161,787-DC* INSATIABLE COUPLE
We are hot, athletic and very fit. We are seeking similar couples or exceptional muscular, well hung, single men. She's 40DD-24-36 and bi. She loves to fuck hard and deep. He's 195 lbs., trim, muscular and 8" +. She prefers jocks, miliary men, and body builders. No fat people or smokers need respond. Send photo and phone. No photo, no response! We are interested in DC, VA, MD, NYC, Miami, and LA.

VOICE MAIL 12209

**********UNQUOTE********
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:28 AM
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9. I was hoping someone would post the rioters photo! These are all people
who willingly took orders from envelopes under their hotel doors, without knowing who paid them or gave the orders, or why!

WHAT CONSPIRACY? :rofl:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:38 PM
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10. Did Spitzer Get Stoned?
Did Spitzer Get Stoned?
Paul Kiel - March 24, 2008 - http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/did_spitzer_get_stoned.php


Well, the short answer seems to be no. But there's still plenty curious about Roger Stone's cameo role in Eliot Spitzer's downfall.

The Miami Herald reported on Friday that Stone, a veteran Republican operative with a deep bag of tricks, had sent a letter via his lawyer to the FBI in November of last year informing them that he'd learned that Spitzer frequented prostitutes ...

.....

So was the FBI asking Stone for information about Spitzer? That's not clear. According to Stone's lawyer Robert Buschel, the FBI had sought to speak to Stone, but "did not specify why they wanted to interview Mr. Stone or the subject matter." Stone's lawyers, understandably, advised Stone against speaking to the FBI on such ambiguous terms. But he apparently did reply by letter with that unsolicited tip about Spitzer's activities.

In sum, it's unclear at this juncture whether the FBI's request had anything to do the Spitzer investigation. It's also unclear whether the FBI received Stone's letter or passed it on to the agents investigating Spitzer and the Emperor's Club. But given the facts reported about how the investigation developed, it's at least clear that Stone's tip came after the investigation was well under way.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:03 AM
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11. Eliot Spitzer and Roger Stone = Village Voice
The Village Voice has followed our characters for many years. Links in OP.

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Eliot Spitzer and Roger Stone
Heather Muse - March 24, 2008 - http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2008/03/still_slagging.php


Even though he's gone as governor, the Eliot Spitzer scandal shows no sign of dying down in tabloid land.....

News meanwhile, takes a look at Roger Stone, the GOP operative who told the FBI of Spitzer's hooker habit, including the detail that the former governor liked to keep his black socks on during his dalliances. Both papers had the story on Sunday, but the News uses this opportunity to delve deeper into the life and times of Stone, including a piece by Elizabeth Benjamin on how Stone is an equal-opportunity trickster, as he reportedly threatened Joe Bruno spokesman John McCardle.

The News is clearly having fun with Stone, as they include a "Let Ye Without Sin Cast First..." sidebar all about his "greatest hits and misses as a GOP operative," which include being a member of Nixon's Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP) and forming "an offensively titled group to attack Sen. Hillary Clinton." It's obvious that Stone is a character who loves the spotlight, and the tabs are more than willing to shine it on him.

.............. comment .............
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