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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:53 PM Original message |
I get the feeling most Americans have no idea how vile and damaging slavery was |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Taverner |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Violence begets violence |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. One of my favorite passages from a Martin Luther King Jr. speech |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. WTH? Bizarre comment!!!! |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. fwiw, by this theory |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. the thing about south american slaves |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. didn't know that |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. no, no great comfort |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. don't want anything |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I worked with a gentleman who was a history buff, especially black history |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. I disagree |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Oh brother.... |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. can I ask your nationality/race? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. BS! They were treated like animals across the board and my "color" shouldn't matter. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. again, I disagree |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. And I disagree... ALL slavery, in and of itself, was brutal and inhumane. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I think I said that |
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PetraPooh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. And now so many are devout Christians, go figure? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. No kidding.... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 03:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
82. In What Way? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. "America" is the name of two continents |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. So.... |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. I said South Carolina, not North |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. What the F does it matter? SC or NC, or MS or GA or MA or CT or TX?? |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I'm not going to argue with you |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. You brought up TX and your brothers attitude... and you sound like you accepted it. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I brought up Texas just to say that my brother drove from there |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. You mistake outrage for anger. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
66. You are right about that |
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againes654 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Austin is not the only place in Texas |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Good to know but our relationship began just a few years after the man was dragged and murdered |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. Stop your Bull Crap |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. and profitable and useful for the owner. extremely profitable. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. One further thing Americans don't understand. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Exactly - Huck Finn was a felon |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 03:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
83. He was also going to hell |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. You are right. The people like Pat would have us think that slaves |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Definitely a stain |
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hifalutin (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. I agree, |
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grassfed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. "Without Sanctuary" Film |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Not just slavery. The next hundred years, too. Read "The Bloody Shirt" |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't think Americans deal with the reality of TODAY very well.. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. I do. My mother believed all her life she was on the union side in |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
69. My grandfather learned quickly never to say that awful word around me |
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MikeNearMcChord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. I would love to get people like Buchanan |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. And cut off a foot if he tried to escape. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. Roots |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
17. People don't learn nearly enough about it in school. |
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hifalutin (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
53. I was going to ask.... |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. I can only speak to what is taught in middle school. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
18. The dominant culture |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
19. We took grandchildren to National Underground Railroad Freedom Center. |
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Faux pas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. Perhaps old pat should be treated like a slave for a few years |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. None of those jackass talking heads speak for me. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. "I'm white, and my heart breaks for what the African slaves went through |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. NO-people like Buchanan, O'Lielly, Limbaugh, Hagee, Robertson, are HEARTLESS. |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
30. I don't think that most of us can even imagine how cruel and dehumanizing |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. Reverse the situation. |
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Angry Mollusk (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
37. Slavery is a crime against humanity- wherever it happens |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
38. How could slavery be anything BUT vile and damaging? n/t |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
39. Recommended reading about slave system |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Morgan's Run by Colleen McCullough does a pretty good job |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
87. Do they discuss the thousands of black slaveowners in NO? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Yes, the main character's mother is a slave owner, |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #87 |
94. Cite your source |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Related to research by John Hope Franklin |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Very interesting |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. i've about decided most americans don't know their ass from their elbow |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
44. The Tuskegee Experiment |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Question: were criminal charges ever brought for those blatant crimes against humanity? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
54. I think one of the things we just can't wrap our heads around |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R #4 for I think everybody does |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
56. There's a great book on slavery in Jamaica |
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avenger64 (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
57. I grasp how vile and damaging it was, but... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. And the bigot strolls in... (n/t) |
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avenger64 (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. well, that's the easy way out, now, isn't it? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Only because you took the easy way in |
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PetraPooh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. I agree, when white children are treated as badly by parents as slaves were; |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Dysfunctional behavior? |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
59. Well, perhaps if we'd pass a law making white male wingnuts |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #59 |
93. You will have to amend the Constitution first to delete |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
62. Um, I'm thinking that Pat Buchanan has no idea how vile and damaging slavery was |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. But you weren't involved, he was, as you say. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. It's a racial shame, I guess or familial, I'm not sure |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. But tavalon, my grandfather was a stubborn, ornery old cuss too! |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Good points all |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
63. HARPER'S WEEKLY (JULY 4, 1863) |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
68. 2,300 narratives at the Library of Congress collected by Roosevelt's WPA |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
71. Pat Buchanan and "his kind" are racist pieces of SHIT |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
72. Hell, most people don't even know they're racist.. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
73. I have a feeling many Americans can't find their home state on a map. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
81. You are pretending slavery is no longer with us... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
84. I get the feeling most americans know slavery was damaging... |
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Freedom Train (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
85. When did Buchanan say this? Just recently? |
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Justice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
86. Two Points - Is there a link to Pat's comments? Second, |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
92. I don't think you or anyone else here in the US has a clue... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
95. (1542) Brief Account of the Devastation of the Indies by Bartolomé de Las Casas |
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