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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:26 PM Original message |
are you sick of "high priced" teachers? try this on??? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Edit. Sorry. |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Freepers wouldn't post this. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Sorry, my bad. I honestly couldn't make it past $19.50 a day. |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. No problem! |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Doesn't sound at all freeperish to me. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Did you forget something? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Read the rest of the thing. nt |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. What a bunch of right wing crap |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Uh re-read this please |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. read it again |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. through the course of the day, I teach 160 8th graders |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. No shit |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. 8th grade Social Studies no less |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. You have 160 students in ONE class from 8am till 3pm?? |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. no, i Have 6 different classes for 41 minutes each |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
64. Through the course of a week I see over 800 |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Yeah, sorry reread it .... I've seen both of them right wing and reality. |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. thanks for the apology...AS a teacher, I would not have posted anything |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. you obviously didn't read it |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. No, I skimmed it |
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politicallore (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Guys making the Federal... change this is STUPID... fight for your local schools... My high school.. |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Really! A teacher making $75,000-90,000+ per year!!!???? |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. no kidding |
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politicallore (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
82. Move to southern seacost NH... that is all I am saying ;) But I am not lying.... It gone done |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. We kept this posted in the teachers lounge 24/7 |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I got it laminated and on my bulletin board |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. LOL! |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. Teachers are disgustingly underpaid |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's not counting getting a Master's Degree... |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. no kidding |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. That, too. n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. If the teachers want to pay for their own buildings |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
65. The day care workers who cared for my daughter did not pay for any of these things |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. I used to tell people I was a seasonal worker... a teacher. |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. Some teachers should be paid more |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
81. i agree. some teachers are excellent |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm a Special Ed TA |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. I have NEVER thought teachers are overpaid. My state has some of the highest-paid |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. Quadruple teacher pay immediately. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
27. all the same, I'd love to get $25,000 a year for nine months of work |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. uh we work more like 15 months a year |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. sorry, I know too many teachers |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. ohhhhhhh I think you are way out of touch |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. NCLB may have changed things a little |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. come work my job. |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. no kidding |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
79. Your argument might make sense if teachers didn't have to supplement their incomes... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
34. Love it!! |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. Don't forget a janitor, lunch ladies, music instructor,... |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
80. I know a school janitor who makes more than the teachers. nt |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
38. I think my mom had a copy of this in her classroom by her desk. :^) |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
41. I keep this one posted. |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. so true |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. "Our choice the amount of work we give" |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
43. I worked out how many of my students were paying me after awhile. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. About ten years ago, I had heard that the starting wage for a HS |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. When I started teaching, I made $18, 600. |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. This former teacher appreciates this post. |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. thanks |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
48. A good teacher can not be paid enough.. |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Merit pay for teachers is shit |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. thank you. |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I never endorsed a "score" protocol.... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. what other protocol might you use? |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Am I going to hold up our pay? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. thoroughly ridiculous expectation on your part. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Without merit pay or some other ranking system, teachers will never be considered true professionals |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. explain how doctors have "merit increases". |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Their income is market based and are primarily self employed, the situation is not analogous |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. allow me to quote you. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. No, the vast majority of doctors are not in a structured hierachial setting |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. so doctors are not professionals, in your view. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The professions are not analgous in the least..your inability to address the unreasonable use of the |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. did you not say that all professions use merit pay? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. well, didn't you? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Mary? |
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Zoigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
55. Thanks for posting this, g. Taught forty years..never made more than 34,000 |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. Why did the teacher cross the road? |
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DesertRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
58. Works for me |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
66. Supply-side economics has sucked education dry. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. hi, Laelth |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. It's just not fair! |
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texshelters (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
83. Bring back child labor! |
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emanymton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
84. Excuse Me??? Any One Can Be A Teacher, Right? |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. It is one of the easiest education tracks... |
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