The Poverty (Final) Solution -- as told by Central Floridians (DU this crap, people!)

[nashville_brook]

It's an exercise in brutality, but I can't stop myself from reading the comments on the Orlando Sentinel website. I particularly look for articles reporting on social programs for the poor, because these stories attract comments that describe our culture in the starkest terms.

This morning I hit the jackpot with an article entitled "15 homeless moms receive housing assistance." First, behold the compassion --> then, go and leave your own comment just to remind the world that these people don't speak for everyone...


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/osceola/orl-home2808mar28,0,2749219.story


As far as all these "single mothers" given public housing, I'd have just one requirement: Entrance requirements are that you show indisputable physical proof of having your tubes cut, tied and cauterized so they cannot be re-connected by Houdini or Jesus either one. I for one am damned tired of seeing these welfare sows being afforded all the handouts based on the number of illegitimate kids they have dropped by a half dozen "Leroy's" whose name they can't even remember anymore and going out and looking to get pregnant again so they can qualify for another stipend from the stupid State welfare numbnuts.

(subtext: eugenic sterilization is not enough! these dirty females must be disfigured; cauterized -- burnt like witches. poor people are "illegitimate" not just in the sense of being without fathers, but they have right to live as they threaten the writer. notice the generalized name he gives the children: "Leroy's" (sic) -- the racism is implicit.)
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To get this free housing they need to tie their tubes. Breeding is just a way for these low lifes to get people to feel sorry for them. If they would spend the time working that they spend having sex they would not be in the situations that they put themselves into. It is sad that one has to take a test to drive a vehicle, take a test to get a gun legally, but anyone can drop out a kid and not have any money or one idea about how to raise a kid. These children are all prison fodder, future prisoners, what can they learn from their mother?

(subtext: another eugenics partisan, because pregnancy is deliberate to garner sympathy. "lowlife" people are characterized by the act of having sex. conversely, "good people" either don't have sex, or aren't punished for having sex with having children. like a Brooks Bros shirt, old testament misogyny never goes out of style.)

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Giving these women free housing is only keeping them enslaved to poverty for the rest of their lives. I bet they are all fat from overeating. Funny how our poor in this country die of heart disease at such a high rate from over eating while in real poverty stricken countries I have visited the poors bellies are swollen from worms. These women dont know poverty.

(subtext: poverty does not exist because poor people are overweight because being in this writer's fantasy, being overweight is associated with having money. it's a sign of abundance. but then, shouldn't an overweight person garner more respect from this writer? this statement is equivalent to the "witch test" used during the Spanish Inquisition: either way you lose.)
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Exactly. These kids will perpetuate the cycle
endlessly, being exposed to mom's lifestyle of
no education, no marriage, various boyfriends
dropping by to impregnate but not to contribute,
and handouts by the government or charities
helping out. What's to show that things could (and should be)be different?

(subtext: the children themselves threaten this person's life and security and poverty due to the mother's moral failings -- because the wealthy are all highly moral. you can tell by their wealth. wealthy folk never have sex either. nor do they have fatherless children. or acne. or weight problems. wealthy people are the BEST!)

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Better get going so I can pay the rent for these people...oh and, you're welcome!

(subtext: I am so pissed off that my money is used to help people in need. more bombs! more bailouts!)

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There's nothing wrong with a lot of hard work. That's the problem with this country. Do you think the Pilgrims had the government to give them a home when they landed in this country hundreds of years ago? What about all those people who lost everything they had during the Civil War? Our ancestors worked hard, lived without, struggled to put food on the tables at times. But, in the end, their hard work paid off. I worked with my family picking oranges or green peppers in the summers while I was in school in order to help make ends meet while I was growing up. That's the problem. People have lost the desire to work for what they have and truly believe, as you so obviously do, that things should be handed to them. Hard work builds character. Some of the people living off government funds should try it once in a while.

(subtext: I'm a bitter old cracker.)

[LynneSin]

1. What idiots - it sounds like a wonderful program

It would be nice if these programs provided family planning counseling - not to have tubes tied like these ignorant posters have stated but to provide reliable birth control for an affordable price. With insurance willing to practically give out stuff like Viagra for dirt cheap but refusing to pay for the pill, well, it makes it difficult for these women to get birth control that is reliable.

[nashville_brook]

3. i bet that there birth control is offered, but not mentioned in the article

because mentioning it would spark a whole crazy religious backlash. prolly by the same people who call for eugenics is this context.

[LynneSin]

8. It's difficult to imagine these racists assholes are in the same party as the religious fundies

The Racists assholes insult these women because they're single monthers and ESPECIALLY because many of them are women of color. But yet if we did a simple solution of making birth control pills cheap and easily available we'd offend the other half of the party with the concept that there a chance a fetus could escape if someone was on the pill.

[nashville_brook]

9. it'll make your head explode if you think about it too much.

that's why i think the Spanish Inquisition reference is so important -- there's nothing poor women of color can do to make these people happy. they will burn either way.

[flvegan]

2. "Welfare sows"? Interesting choice of words.

I read my two local Florida papers (St. Pete Times and Tampa Tribune) each morning online. I try really hard to not get sucked into reading the void that is "readers' comments" on their sites. Usually, they turn out to be little more than strung together grammatical stupidity.

[nashville_brook]

5. that jumped out at me too.

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. These people make me want to puke

Sorry but I can't think of anything positive to say.

[nashville_brook]

7. i spend a good deal of my life in my bubble, knowing that not everyone thinks like me...

and that that's okay...

then i see stuff like this and i'm just floored. these are cartoon characters of racism and misogyny -- i can hardly believe that anyone in this day and age would say such things out loud.

here's my thing -- i think that people should have to use their REAL name on newspaper comments. you shouldn't be allowed to anonymously post destructive messages and hide behind your handle-of-the-day. letters to the editor REQUIRE name and address -- comments should be no different.

[Breeze54]

6. Is this newspaper in a retirement area?

:shrug:

What a bunch of bigots!

[nashville_brook]

12. Orlando is historically retirement-y, but that's really no excuse.

it's a thriving metro these days, prolly having just a little over-average retirement population.

[Breeze54]

14. I didn't say it was an excuse... just saying it

sounds like a bunch of old biddies which made me think

about posting something about 'jealousy and sex'! :P

[nashville_brook]

16. sorry, didn't mean that to sound... well, mean... or ornery

i agree that there's a tinge of "old man bitterness," and they may well me old farts. i'm grokking, tho, a misogynist bent here as with most discussions of poverty in the non-DU world. it goes something like this: if she wasn't such a loose, wanton woman, she wouldn't be impoverished. ergo, she deserves to be homeless -- as a matter of fact, to help her out is immoral b/c that's like subsidizing sex. it's a beat that i see over and over again, especially amongst young men (as on certain car sites), that it's immoral to help people out -- it's a form of "objectivism" a la Ayn Rand.

to be clear, tho -- didn't mean to sound snippy -- :hi:

[Breeze54]

19. No worries...I actually appreciate your outrage!!

I AM a single mother!! ;)

Yes I was married and divorced and then lived with a guy 9 years after that
and two yrs. in, got pregnant and he split, so I guess I would be their target.

A single unwed mother! OMG! Burn me at the stake!! :P

I appreciate your outrage. :hug:

[Bluenorthwest]

10. Thanks for a thread with meaning.

No quarter for people like these I say, who would leave mothers and children on the streets. The only word for such people is 'Republican'.

[nashville_brook]

11. i could do one of these thread everyday -- the comments at the OS are just nauseating.

i had to post this one because the comments were so rich in subtext -- they really open up what's going on in those pointy little heads.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. My newspaper is just as bad

Every crime story is followed by negative racial comments. (Since we all know that ALL crime is committed by black people!! :sarcasm:)

[nashville_brook]

17. i bet most local papers are plagued with this b/c most local papers are ad vehicles rather than

public information sources.

back in grad school, when "the internet" was still young and we wondered about the social implications of instant, borderless communication, we didn't anticipate that this wonderful new medium would become just another way to shout racial epithets. so disappointing that this is the best we can do with our big brains, big technology and so-called humanity.

[Sabriel]

15. I didn't realize Houdini was in the miracle biz

Who knew he was on par with JC?

Nashville: why do you read that drivel? It's like listening to Rush...some of that shit's bound to stick where you can't wash it off.

Just reading it (or listening) diminishes you.

[nashville_brook]

18. like Bill Hicks said about watching Cops -- it's like a sore tooth that i can't stop messing with.