Do You Remember Where You Were When You Heard About Nixon’s ENEMIES LIST?

[McCamy Taylor]

I. History 1973

Do you? I think that for a lot of Americans of a certain age (over 50) this is as important an historic milestone as the assassination of JKF. If you were a young teenager like me you may have trouble recalling exactly where you were---I remember that it was summer and the hot Texas sun was shining brightly through the window---but I clearly remember hearing the news and the mixed emotions that it generated.

Nixon is fucked.

Oh my god. No one is safe.

When Senators and business executives and Oscar winning movie stars like Gregory Peck and Paul Newman can have their taxes audited and can be targeted by the Justice Department and smeared just because you know that you don’t have to wait for 1984 .

1984 has already come for you.

People did what they tend to do in times of crisis. They made a joke of it. Celebrities began to brag about being on the so called Nixon’s Enemies List Hunter S. Thompson publicly complained that he was not included. However, the truth was that it shook a lot of people. In America, if you got an education and became a college professor, a recognized authority you were supposed to be exempt, right? Wrong. The Enemies List targeted academics.

http://calvert.wustl.edu/PolSci3103.fall02/watergate/enemy.htm

Ok, if you became a beloved celebrity with lots of fans, you should be “safe”, right? Don’t count on it. Here was the list that really sold copy.

Celebrities
Carol Channing, actress
Bill Cosby, actor
Jane Fonda, actress
Steve McQueen, actor
Joe Namath, New York Giants ; business; actor
Paul Newman, actor
Gregory Peck actor
Tony Randall actor
Barbra Streisand, actress
Dick Gregory

How about rich? Rich businessmen run the country? They can do whatever they want. Calvin’s followers swore that being rich was a sign of God’s blessing and no U.S. government would go against the will of the Lord? Would they?

You bet.

And, of course, every member of the Black Legislative Caucus was on the list. John Conyers made it to the exclusive first list of 25.

When no one is safe everyone is afraid.

In one of the documents, written by Dean Aug. 16, 1971, intended to accompany the undated master list of opponents, Dean suggested ways in which "we can use the available federal machinery to screw our political enemies." Methods proposed included Administration manipulation of "grant availability, federal contracts, litigation, prosecution, etc."

That’s putting it nicely.

http://everything2.com/title/enemies%2520list

The existence of the list was revealed in a Senate Watergate hearing in June 1973, in which it was also revealed that the list was intended to make it easier for the administration to "use the available federal machinery to screw our political enemies."

Your government exists to screw you.

II. Politics 2008

Everyone knows that Democrats over 50 favor Hillary Clinton and people under 30 go for Obama and in between is a gray zone.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/

I hear and read lots of speculation about this. Old people are more conservative. More “prejudiced” (code for racist, but for some reason not sexist---funny that). Sometimes you can get more information from a demographical analysis if you add in another demographical analysis. Up until the Wright tapes, Hillary had wider appeal among confirmed Democrats than Obama. What does this mean?

What makes a person a Democrat in the 21st century? Besides being a member of a union or a racial or ethnic minority, hating the Republicans makes you a Democrat. Being opposed to the unfairness of Reaganomics and Bush lies about WMDs and Bush civil liberty abuses and Bush cronyism. Being Democrat in the present era is basically a reaction to the many characteristics of the Bush-Cheney administration that are directly copied from the Nixon administration.



Obama’s support among Democrats has risen in the wake of the release of the Wright tapes. This has confounded news pundits who are clueless about what it means to be a Democrat. Democrats do not find the words “God damn America” offensive. We know that America (Dick Nixon and then Reagan and then Bush) declared war on its own citizens. We know that America has a lot of ‘splainin’ to do. And we will fight to the death to preserve Rev. Wrights to freedom to say what he wants and Obama’s right to attend the Church he wants. Republicans are the ones who make a big deal about words and symbols of patriotism. Democrats believe in actions. They believe in rebellion of the type that the Founders practiced. They are not afraid of dissent.

I suspect that a cause of the dividing line within the Democratic Party somewhere in the 40s has a lot more to do with the abuses of the Nixon administration than it does with “prejudice”. Older Democrats contain a lot of people who are quite radical. They fought against the draft, segregation, anti-abortion laws. Those were hard battles. Heads got broken. People were jailed. Shot. Murdered. And the enemy was very real and very dangerous. Democrats learned that they needed tough leaders to stand up against the very real right wing conspiracy which Watergate revealed to the country and which Ford’s pardon of Nixon prevented the country from excising. As I wrote about in a previous journal, because we never impeached Nixon, we never had our Nuremberg. We never changed the system that made him possible. Therefore, we have Nixon II, Bush-Cheney and the same dirty tricks being used this election by Karl Rove alumnus of CREEP---only this is CREEP extreme.

Hillary Clinton, who is not afraid to denounce the right wing conspiracy and her husband Bill, who wagged his finger at “Gentle” Chris Wallace are the type of people whom older Democrats trust to battle the Big Brother forces that continue to work behind the scenes at the press, FBI, CIA, DOJ even when the Democrats are in the White House. Hillary is a member of the Irish-American matriarchy, a fighter. Her style is in your face, confrontational. In days like these, when we are faced with the exact same crimes that Dick Nixon and his administration committed, it is no wonder that a large number of staunch Democrats are absolutely convinced that we need a fighter like her to battle the very real enemy that is attempting to make the American people enemies of the state.

Then, there are those who do not remember the moment of disillusion that came when the existence of Nixon’s Enemies List was revealed. For them, Republicanism is typified by the show that Nancy Reagan put on. Morning in America was a slick production. Though Reagan and Co. pursued many of the same policies, Nancy dressed it up with pink ribbons and bows and pretended that they cared. It made people feel good. It told Americans “Get rich, get famous, stay a virgin until you marry and you will be safe. We will take care of you.” The Reagan era embraced religion and “family values”. It promised to be fair. Democrats who came of age during Nancy’s pretend pretty fantasy of sweetness and light thought to themselves that they lived in a safe country where the only thing they had to fear was a nuclear attack from a country on the other side of the planet.

For them, Obama the Unifier is the perfect candidate. He makes them feel good. He makes them feel safe. He can be their Nancy again. He will make all the worry that they feel over Bush-Cheney go away magically so that they do not have to think about it. He looks good in a suit, like Reagan. He is attractive on TV, like Reagan. He is a hell of a lot smarter than Reagan. When they were children, they liked their country with a childlike innocence. Now, they want to like it in the same way but they are no longer children. Obama will allow them to feel good again, but in a more common sense, practical way.

I must insert a big except here. Black members of the Democratic Party know that Morning in America was a crock of shit. They are not looking for a new Reagan in Obama. His support among African-Americans rose when he showed a willingness to step down from the unifier pedestal and take up issues of race as an advocate for those whom the Democratic Party has taken for granted. This earned him a loyal voting block within the Party that spans age, since African-Americans have always been victimized by the government. This support is closer to the support which old Democrats feel for Hillary, because it is generated out of an instinct for self defense and the defense of country, liberty and the Constitution. There is more at stake for them than just "feeling good" and they will insist that he continue his primary challenge all the way to Denver just as Hillary's core supporters will. People with their backs up against the wall do not give up easily.

The people who remember Nixon share something in common with Obama's 30 year old White supporters. They would also like to like their country---but they will never be able to, no matter how charming their president. I remember the day when I was about 30, when I realized that I was uncomfortable with a president that I trusted too much. If I let my guard down, my instinct told me that something bad was bound to happen. Better to keep an eye on the resident of the White House, Democrat or Republican. And under no circumstances ever idealize him the way that people once built up JFK. I think maybe a lot of former Watergate junkies have had this moment. They know for a fact that the U.S. is built upon lies and corruption, and the corruption has yet to be purged.

And we were right. The current administration is doing what Nixon planned to do if he had had his full four more years to exact his revenge against his enemies.

For months, the older more cynical Democrats have been skeptical of Obama’s feel good message. I suspect that Wright’s much more accurate assessment of America has made them rethink Obama. "God damn America," he said. "Right on!" we think. Maybe Obama isn’t all talk. Maybe he knows the score after all. .

Note: Some Hillary supporters are under 40 and some Obama supporters are over 50. I am not saying that this is the only reason why people choose one candidate over the other. I expect to see people post saying "I remember but I like Obama better!" or "I'm 19 and I like Hillary!". My point is that I think this might explain some of the age differential and the Party affiliation differential between their supporters.

[RoyGBiv]

1. Checking into my room ...

... at the Watergate.

[roguevalley]

25. I was glued to the boobtube. What a thing it would have been had

the internet been around. He was such a sick fuck. But he was better than Bush. Spare me stupid people. They are the dangerous ones. Not merely crooked criminals like Nixon who had a certain IQ.

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. Nixon also accomplished a few things as prez unlike W

He was an evil bastard but lots smarter. And he has a more positive legacy as prez. The EPA, trade with China (not such a great thing today but a big accomplishment at the time), education rights for kids with disabilities. And W has a failed war and a trashed US reputation on the world stage. Can't think of any positive accomplishments.

[L. Coyote]

2. Nixon's enemies were also people of color and the Jews. That was a real shock.

The Nixon tapes were particularly shocking, revealing overt racism and free-wielding criminality.
The tapes provide insight into a racist president acting above the law, and subordinates consenting without pause.

We should be very concerned about white robes hidden in their closets to this day.
Anyone with any connection to these KKK-esque idiots should have be driven from politics forever, period.
They hide their Klan robes, but their racism continues to show to this day.

The following from:
"I’m Not a Crook"
The Public Face and Private Political Reality of Richard M. Nixon
A Discourse and Conversation Analysis of Some Nixon Tapes
http://jqjacobs.net/anthro/discourse.html

In the secretly recorded, private White House conversations a far different persona is evidenced that the one Nixon presented to the public. The transcripts reveal that Nixon was a criminal unrestrained by the law. At the same time he was reelected by a landslide. Obviously the image Nixon projected to the public was believed and was effective. In the case of Richard M. Nixon, public denials of involvement in the Watergate break-in and its subsequent cover-up were believed by the general public. Statements like "I’m not a crook," and other denials of wrongdoing, in combination with the persona Nixon presented to the electorate, influenced the course of American politics. If the people of the United States had known the private Nixon and the truth of the private Nixon conversations he would probably not have been reelected.

... Conclusion ...

The Nixon tapes show us that it is certainly possible to control what others, even an entire nation, thinks about you. The control of discourse can serve as a deception of the electorate. The private and public personas of political figures can be immensely disparate. The electorate should always assume that the private persona of a political figure, especially the President, is not the same as the public image.

Appendix

Conversations between President Richard M. Nixon and White House Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman. The following series of sessions include the President ordering illegal acts or dirty tricks.

Nixon ordering investigation of Jews.

N: Please get the names of the Jews. You know, the big Jewish contributors to the Democrats. Could you please investigate some of the -------. (expletive deleted)

Next day:

N: What about the rich Jews? The IRS is full of Jews, Bob.

H: What we ought to do is get a zealot who dislikes those people.

N: Go after them like a son of a bitch.

Nixon ordering Haldeman to break into the Brookings Institution.

N: They have a lot of material. I want--the way I want that handled Bob is get it over. I want Brooking. Just break in. Break in and take it out. You understand.

H: Yeah. But you have to get somebody to do it.

[Doc_Technical]

6. Lindsey Air Station, Wiesbaden, West Germany.

When the Enemies List came out, I laughed at this entry:
"Joe Namath, New York Giants ; business; actor."
Those morons at CREEP didn't know that Namath played
for the Jets, not the Giants.
Besides, Namath wasn't an actor, he was a movie star.
The American Forces Network Europe and the Stars and
Stripes newspaper hardly mentioned these things and
most people where I was stationed thought this was no
big deal.
It was a different world then, Democrats actually stood
up to a neo fascist President and the news media didn't
just repeat verbatim what the White House told them
to print.

[Nay]

16. It was a diff world -- Dems stood up and got that bastard out. That's

what makes us (those over 50) so depressed about what's going on now. In our lifetimes, we have seen Dems (and some embarrassed Pubs, if you can imagine that!) go after a criminal president and bring him down. Now, Nixon was a crook, but his crookedness pales in comparison to the mega-crooks we are saddled with today, and we can only look on in horror as our representatives say shit like "Impeachment is off the table." Back then, JAILTIME wasn't even off the table.

[McCamy Taylor]

26. Maybe Cheney set up FISA and his blackmail wiretap op in early 2001 for a reason?

So that he could make sure that no one---not even Congressional Dems or rogue members of the press would dare to do to him what they did to Nixon?

[Nay]

31. Could be -- but that just makes Dems cowards. Not all of them can

have such shady pasts that they all run scared. But I am at a loss to explain the cowardice. After all, back then, the FBI kept files and shit on everyone. I can't imagine that it was that much different than now.

[Beregond2]

3. List

I don't remember where I was, but I remember laughing my ass off, because Carol Channing was on it; lol! Why, because she sang "Hello, Lyndon?" She has often stated since that making his list was the proudest achievement of her life.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

4. Yes, I do indeed recall.

I was on a war ship in route to the indian ocean the mission was about looking into a different list he had and a different kind of war ,much different than Vietnam.It,s like the man said,it,s either you or your kids,which would you prefer?You might remember that threw the oil imbagro,rather short lived-gas rationing and all that jazz. But than the watergate break in,s became global news ,didn,t it? I still wonder even today ,what ever happened to that part of Nixon,s list.

[McCamy Taylor]

5. Noam Chomsky has a great article on that. Check out my journal.

[Hissyspit]

7. I think it was for her performance in "Skidoo."

:)

[Skittles]

8. I was 16 - and nothing much surprised me after Vietnam and Kent State

seriously

[bigbrother05]

9. Bamberg, Germany

Had left college and gone to visit parents and see Europe. Had started watching the hearings in the states before going overseas on my 21st B'day at the end of May '73. Would listen on AFN with my mom, she was so utterly disgusted, she has voted nothing but Dem since (never really talked politics with her before). Proud that our Senator, Fred Harris (from my home town, was a populist candidate at one time), was on the list.

Back Obama (originally Edwards, hard to get the Okie populist out of your blood), but will vote Dem regardless. Mom (84) admitted to voting for Clinton in the OK primary, but thinks Obama might be the right choice after getting a chance to hear more about him.

[OutNow]

10. Remember - Hell, I was on the list

About 6 months after the list was identified (not when the entire list was published because I don't think it was published in its entirety in the 70s) I got a phone call from a lawyer friend of mine. He had just finished participating in a meeting that was putting together the strategy on lawsuits against the government for COINTELPRO crimes against the New Left, Black Panthers, etc.

"Hey", my friend said, "you're on the list". I thought he meant the list of plaintiffs for the lawsuit. I expressed my thanks for inclusion in the lawsuit. "No, no", he replied, "you're on the enemies list - Nixon's enemies list. We had a copy at the meeting." Well, I was a political activist, I was arrested about a dozen times, etc. My FBI file that I obtained later via a FOIA and a later COINTELPRO lawsuit explained how I was included on the list.

The Boys Club in my town had just built a new center and Tricia Nixon was coming to town to speak at the grand opening. No one but folks associated with the Boys Club and the local cops knew of her visit. (In those years no one associated with the Nixon regime could go anywhere without causing a near riot of antiwar protests). Someone on the board told us of the event. We showed up with about 200 protesters and a very graphic display of black coffins and members of the local VVAW drenched in fake blood, with a large banner "Nixon's Boy's Club". We outnumbered the local dignitaries about 200 to 100 and made some folks very pissed off. Tricia (or her handlers) was shocked by the gore. (why the 50,000 GIs dead in Vietnam wasn't shocking to her is the puzzling thing to me). The subsequent FBI investigation (you might ask yourself why the FBI was investigating since no crime was committed) quite easily identified the leak (he told the first FBI guy who asked) and the organizers of the protest (including me). For this, I was added to the list.

This was not a joke by the way. My employer and landlord were "interviewed" by the FBI. my taxes were audited and my wages garnished for about $25.00 (just to piss off my employer I'm sure) and other nasty stuff occurred.

Thanks for creating this thread. I haven't thought about Nixon's list in quite some time.

For the record, I'm 58, and a strong supporter of Barack Obama.

[McCamy Taylor]

27. Someone needs to do a documentary and a book, what happened and where are they now?

Thanks for the info. Those must have been bad times until the truth was revealed.

If we had had trials, people like you would have been called to testify, like at Nuremberg, and everybody in the country would have realized that the loopholes that make this kind of shit possible need to be cleaned up. Then Bush-Cheney would not have happened.

Obama and Hillary supporters need to be all over their candidates demanding that their DOJ's hold trials to make every crime committed under Bush-Cheney public and to hold the criminals accountable and to fix the system (even if it means losing some of their own executive powers). That last is where they are going to balk.

[ThomWV]

11. Viet Nam, central highlands

[Echo In Light]

12. Author Harlan Ellison was on Reagan's "List of Subversives," prior to Nixon's

Science/speculative fiction author and point man in the field, Harlan Ellison, had two books released in the late 60s, The Glass Teat and the Other Glass Teat, both compilations of essays critical of the television culture and its nefarious affect on the public mind. Apparently Spiro Agnew didn't care for his views.

From the 1975 intro to a reprint of The Glass Teat,

"Then suddenly, everything turned into a nightmare! A friend called from Sacramento to tell me I'd been placed on Ronald Reagan's "Subversives list." Dig it: this was four years before we were to learn of "enemies list" via the Watergate route, though such lists undoubtedly existed at that time. My name was one of several hundred on a semi-public document being circulated out of the California state capitol...

By December 30, 1970, what looked like a sellout of the 88,565 copy print run turned out to be a total sale of 36,304....

TEAT had been bestseller for three solid weeks....

Distributors, news dealers, wholesalers, and retailers all got the clear but surreptitious message: This book ain't for sale not nowhere, not no how, not no way!

That was the first indication I had that maybe my big fat typewriter had gotten me in deep stuff with the shadowy Them..."

[Stuart G]

13. Daniel Schorr of CBS TV News, read the enemies list, His own name was on it..

Daniel Schorr was the CBS TV Watergate correspondent at the time. I was listening to Sam Donaldson at ABC News..He had the story and was reading the list of of people. .......(I station switched a lot..turned the TV by hand, black and white I recall)

It was breaking news.......happening live, the networks were trying to get the news out immediately..Sam Donaldson, yes the same one that is still there, read........


. Daniel Schorr's name...he was on the list..



So I switched to CBS, and there was Danile Schorr just beginning his report.. I am not sure if he had pre - read this story..(I don't think so...)
He read the list of names....He gets to his own name...and reads and stops, looks at the camera for a moment, the look on his face, was one of complete disgust, it defined what we would all feel, and then he went on.. reading..

It may have been the strangest moment I have ever seen in politics. An enemies list..(really?)..Someone finding out that he is on the enemies list, live, in front of millions of people...what a moment.............
.......Unfortunately, I think we are there again...worse...
..In looking back, I see Watergate as very important scandal , a reflection of Nixon, an attempt to destroy the Constitution that failed, and also when I think about it .....it killed no one....

[DFW]

14. I was in college in 1973

I was torn between worrying whether there would be a new Gestapo
and writing a letter of protest to the White House for having
been excluded from the list.

[prairierose]

15. I was home from college...

for the summer and following all of the news about Nixon and the republican's crimes. I had been marching against the war for several years by then. I have not trusted government since then and suspect I never will.

Somehow the enemies list was worse than the bad things government was known to do before then. I remember thinking then and many times since then that it is one thing for our government to choose to overthrow some government for the sake of an american corporation or american profits in general but targeting individual citizens for their political views seemed so much worse to me.

Now, which one is more evil I think it is a tossup....:shrug:

[L. Coyote]

17. K & R

[PCIntern]

18. College...

Soon after, Daniel Schorr came to speak. Brilliant, insightful, clever, and funny and predicted the demise of the Nixon Administration with caveats. Very prescient.

[DesertRat]

19. I was a senior in high school. K&R

[stevedeshazer]

20. Don't remember where I was, but I DO remember thinking: Daniel Schorr?

What the hell is wrong with Daniel Schorr?

For the younger, he was a CBS News reporter then, and a damned good one.

[Irishonly]

21. In College

I was involved in protests, wanting Nixon impeached and planning on changing the world for the better. I also remember laughing at the list and wondering if Joe Namath was on because he did a commercial for panty hose. I thought the government was evil. Not much has changed, has it?

[defendandprotect]

22. To think that Watergate ever ended is a HUGE mistake....

In one of the documents, written by Dean Aug. 16, 1971, intended to accompany the undated master list of opponents, Dean suggested ways in which "we can use the available federal machinery to screw our political enemies." Methods proposed included Administration manipulation of "grant availability, federal contracts, litigation, prosecution, etc."*

There's much about this period of time which continues on and new tricks added to the GOP playbook. I partially understood that at the time --- but not as completely as what I've learned since.

At the time of Watergate/Enemies list I had two kids under two years old and we were moving into a house and out of the city. I was hoping for what finally happened --- Nixon impeachment.

But it was obvious that things were still very wrong ---
We had not been able to properly investigate the JFK coup; and it was a very powerful coup as we can see which included LBJ because without the presidency they couldn't have pulled it off.

And we never properly opened up the Watergate scandal to deal with all of it -- ITT still haunts us --- see Naomi Klein/Shock Doctrine --- Page 65 ...

Part of it here . . .
QUOTE: In March 1972, in the midst of Letelier's tense negotiation with ITT, Jack Anderson, a syndicated newspaper columnist, publised an explosive series of articles based on documents that showed that the telephone company had been secretly plotted with the CIA and the State Department to block Allende from being inaugurated two years. In the face of these allegations, and with Allende still in power, the US Senate, controlled by Democrats, launched an investigation and uncovered a far-reaching conspiracy in which ITT had offered $1 million inbribes to Chilean opposition forces and "sought to engage the CIA in a plan covertly to manipulate the outcome of the Chilean presidential election."

The planned failed, but then ITT moved to a new strategy designed to "ensure that Allende would not make it through the next six months." The relationship between ITT executives and the US Government was most "alarming" to the Senate. Documents and testimony showed clearly that ITT was directly involved in shaping US policy toward Chile "at the highest level." Henry Kissinger recieved a suggestion from an ITT exec that "without informin gPresident Allende, all US aid funds already committed to Chile shoudl be placed in the 'unde rereview' status." ITT also prepared an 18-point strategy for the Nixon Admin -- "containing a clear call for a military coup." The suggestion was to work within the Chilean military..."build up their disconent against Allende, thus, bring about necessity of his removal."

"Grilled by the Senate commiottee about his brazen attempts to harnessthe force of the US Government to subvert Chile's constitutional process in order to further ITT's own economic interests, the company's VP, Ned Gerrity, seemed genuinely confused. "What's wrong with taking care of No. 1?" he asked. The committee offered a response in its report: "No. 1 should not be allowed an undue role in determinging US policy."UNQUOTE

etc etc --

However, as I look at this I can't believe that they didn't put the guy in jail ---
and I think that we are being harmed now because there was never a complete clearing of
Watergte --- and how many still think it was a "third rate burgulary" --- !!! ???


* Just also want to add that John Dean is a likeable guy --- but, needless to say, I don't wholly trust him and wonder how he's managed to stay alive this long. Obviously, there are things he could talk about which he doesn't --- and you will notice that no one ever presses him for anything but KNOW info on the Nixon administration.

ITT was also involved in another Nixon scandal which I've never been quite clear on ---
Dita Beard and Howard Hunt?**

Although most American newspapers were celebrating the successful end to the crisis, the editor of a French paper, Le Monde diplomatique, wrote, "The elimination of Mr. Richard Nixon leaves intact all the mechanisms and all the false values which permitted the Watergate scandal." For instance, the influence of money and the government's connection to corporate interests still remained a significant part of the system. Although some reform legislation came out of Watergate, campaign finance is still a major issue even today.

For better or for worse, Nixon was ousted, but the system remained the same.

http://www.ustrek.org/odyssey/semester2/041401/041401nedawatergate.html


** Here's something on that . . .
One of Hunt's early jobs involved Dita Beard, the loquacious
ITT employee who had committed to writing her pride that a recom-
mended bribe had earned favorable consideration for ITT with the
Justice Department. Hunt, equipped with a CIA supplied garish red
wig and voice alteration device, flew out to Dita Beard's hospi-
tal in Denver and obtained crucial statements from her denying
the whole thing.

The CIA supplied technical support to Hunt and his plumbers
team when they broke into the offices of Daniel Ellsberg's psy-
chiatrist.

None of these CIA connections with Hunt received much attention
from Woodstein. Robert Bennett and the Mullen Company are men-
tioned in the book, but not one word appears about the company's
CIA connections. The Dita Beard and Ellsberg episodes are re-
counted but not the CIA's technical support. Most of these con-
nections were well known in early 1973, almost one year before
the book's publication, yet the CIA receives hardly any mention
at all - unless you want to count "Deep Throat" that is.

http://www.walrus.com/~jklotz/watergat.htm


Here's another interesting link on Robert Bennett .... !!!
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbennettRF.htm

[Echo In Light]

24. Thanks for posting

[McCamy Taylor]

28. "America NEEDS to hate The Phone Company" The President's Analyst

[L. Coyote]

29. Interesting reading, especially the Sen. Bennett connections to the WH Plumbers.

Thanks.

[defendandprotect]

36. Glad you read it . . . there is also a lot of "Bennett" stuff that happened in DC . . .

There are a lot of them --- some certainly related --- brothers, uncles ---
bad guys --- good guys/?

[Sam Ervin jret]

23. I don't remember when the list came out. I remember watching the

Watergate testimony and thinking, "I can't wait until I'm older and I can understand what these guys are saying."

Little did I know that age alone does not give you a Bull shit translator.

I do remember "that old guy with the Constitution." Always talking about the constitution in words even I could understand in Jr. high.

I later read he said, "The president is the servant of the Constitution and not it's master.." and "There's nothing in the Constitution that authorizes or makes it the official duty of the president to have anything to do with criminal activities."

He was against the pardon of Nixon and for a wall between Church and state so high "no one could climb it"

No man is a perfect vessel, but for constitutional education at a time when this country needed it, which I feel it does again, I remember Sam Ervin.

[dysfunctional press]

30. no.

nt

[judasdisney]

32. History? We Have Nothing To Learn From History

SHOCKED, I'm SHOCKED I tell you, that we have repeated the Reichstag Fire, Operation Mockingbird, COINTELPRO, the Warren Commission, and I'm looking forward to the upcoming Gulf of Tonkin II, Great Depression II, Election of 1824 II (with HRC as benefactor), and finally the Americanized Pinochet Coup II.

How could we possibly learn from the Nixon years, when we're seeing two-year intervals between repeats of Black Box Voting Fraud in 2002, 2004, and 2006?

Maybe all those Black Boxes have just gone away, no need to worry. Maybe they can't be used by Neocons to elect a Democratic Salvador Allende for the coup de grace.

[defendandprotect]

35. It's worse than that . . . the steals began in the mid-1960's . . .

Judasdisney --

How could we possibly learn from the Nixon years, when we're seeing two-year intervals between repeats of Black Box Voting Fraud in 2002, 2004, and 2006?

Actually, it's worse than that -- the steals began in the mid-1960's . . .
which kinda explains what happened after the JFK coup and where we are now---!!

"Votescam, The Stealing of America" can be scanned or read at this website ---

http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm

It was written by Jim & Ken Collier, two journalists who wanted to do a story on the elections in Florida --- and they decided that one of them should run for office. Quickly they noticed problems after a "computer breakdown" --- and they began to investigate. Their book was suppressed as it hit the bookstores.

The family keeps the website going to try to help inform the public.

[judasdisney]

37. Agreed. The U.S. has permanent amnesia

and I think that's called "Ronald Reagan Disease."

I guess a nation gets what it deserves.

[unapatriciated]

33. I remember January 1971 even more...

My than husband was stationed off shore of Vietnam on a destroyer and I had just given birth to our first child. Usually the red cross notifies the Serviceman of births. They refused because I had been very vocal and had marched in a few rallies against the war. I had already been expelled from my local Navy Wife's Club (they assist families while a spouse is overseas) for my anti-war stance. When they later came out with the list I remembered thinking there was probably a lot more regular citizens on it than was reported.

[jcla]

38. Any environmentalist was on that list...

Farley Mowat was banned from entering the US (Evil Canadians... he opposed Nixon's Interior Secretary's killing of wolves... among other things.) The enemies list was way long... if you were Black, Brown, Jewish, environmentalist,a democrat, civil rights worker, peace protester or a republican who opposed Nixon's policies you were on the list. Most of the world was on that list. The joke in our family was that Nixon should have a friends list... it would be much much shorter. Many of the high profile people on the list knew that Nixon would try and "get" them if possible. That was always his M. O. Politically dirty... from his California days when he "red baited" (called them Communists or communist sympathizers) people who ran against him or opposed him.
When Barbara Jordan stood up and gave her speech for Nixon's impeachment I was so proud I cried!
Am 60 and support Barack H. Obama, Jr. I also have been very disgusted with the lack of impeachment proceedings in our congress. My state representative(Now California's Diane Watson) has supported impeachment petitions and has voted to get them discussed. My home state in its town meetings have asked for impeachment and have now declared Bush and Cheney as war criminals.... Bush never has come to Vermont, tho.