Why I think the Iran strike is imminent.

[vickitulsa]

I live near the Tulsa airport, and a huge maintenance hub for the military's favorite jets is located there. I can even hear them testing their engines sometimes, revving them to the max on the ground after working on them.

I've lived here for five years, having moved here the day the Iraq war began in 2003. During this time, there have always been a lot of military jets coming and going, roaring their massive engines right above this RV park as they hotrod across the skies, burning fuel like there's no end to it.

Lately, however, I'm seeing something I haven't seen since I first moved here -- a remarkable increase in the number and frequency of those military jet flights coming in and going out. Not only is there a marked increase, they are just behaving differently. It's like they are now practicing their maneuvers and making sure they're ready for the big strikes soon to come in Iran.

From what I'm seeing in the skies overhead, they're ready all right! Hornets fill the skies and are screaming through the air like never before. Raptors visit the maintenance hub down the road and show off their maneuverability and speed as they take off.

I'm convinced all those jocks are making sure they're prepared for the air attacks they're preparing to make, and Iran is the logical next target. Anyone else who lives near a military base seeing similar signs?

[Hardrada]

1. Well, that's the Luftwaffe. What about the Wehrmacht?

[Whoa_Nelly]

2. I live near a Naval Air Station

and there increases and decreases depending on the squadrons coming and going to do training here.

More doesn't always mean anything is imminent. It could be that there are just flight squadrons on assignment (or whatever they call it) for right now.

[vickitulsa]

5. Thanks for that info.

I wish I could put my finger on just why I feel these fighter-attack planes are readying themselves for a major action, but I can't. It's just that I've been here this long and have observed the patterns of "normal" activity -- and this isn't it.

Not only are there a great many more squads coming and going, they are just flying quite differently from how they normally do. It's like they are practicing their hardest maneuvers and fastest peal-outs. And they're doing this directly over residential areas near the airport, too. That normally does NOT happen. Because those things are so damn LOUD they shake the ground and making conversation impossible, they tend to try to come in and take off with some restraint on their use of max capabilities. Now they're just cutting it all loose, and it seems to me they are purposely doing it low over the ground, like they might do when attacking facilities in Iran (or anywhere else).

Their formations are also much more precise than previously, and their speeds are obviously much higher on approach and take-off both.

I've been through the cycles of typical Hornet behavior a lot since I've been here, but I haven't seen anything like this since the early air attacks in Iraq. Gives me the shudders and makes me worry.

I know I sure won't be surprised if I wake up one morning soon and the teevee "news" people are carrying on excitedly about U.S. air attacks on Iran facilities....

What better way for BushCo to either remain in power or else hand off the biggest mess yet to a new Dem administration upon Shrub's departure?

[Rage for Order]

3. The 13 previous predictions of "imminent strikes on Iran" didn't pan out

But I think it's really going to happen this time!

[The Wielding Truth]

4. It's been our worst fear. * Co has been pulling us in this direction.

We've been shocked by "Axis of evil" and been taken back in disbelief when told by CO-ndi that their plan was "to remake the middle east". The constant drums thumping to war. No mater that these countries have never threatened us meaningfully. Six years of war is of no concern for them because they are sucking our economy dry through allocating all of our taxes and soldiers to private companies which support their takeover of the oil.

I have friends whose families are Iranian and they are amazingly kind and accomplished people. What if they are killed? Why? There is no reason except that oil if under their ground.

Who can stop them? I have written and called. Why isn't everyone stepping up? How can we be sniping at little things that bug us about Barack and Hillary,when millions of innocent Iranian lives are in our hands. *Co have already destroyed everything in there path to get the power to steel. Now they are moving into the 3rd spoke of their axis. I will call again tomorrow. Will you?

[vickitulsa]

7. You should hear the responses I get from my Repuke "reps"!

I mean, OK has the absolute WORST in the nation in Inhofe and Coburn, and their office staffers are rude as hell to anyone who either gives himself away as a Dem or dares to be critical of how their "honorable" senators vote or behave.

Makes me so angry each time I talk to those people, I end up steaming for days and upping my blood pressure. I frankly don't believe calling or writing does any good at all anymore, but I wish I had a better idea for what to do to influence these self-serving seekers of great wealth and power in our land.

I am so worried for Iranian citizens who may face not only utter disruption and possible destruction (a la Iraq) of their country but the immediate and longterm devastation of NUCLEAR bunker-buster bombs that will likely be used on their government's nuclear facilities. The American military has been wanting to USE their "small" nukes for years now, and since the test in Nevada was cancelled due to local and national outrage, I feel they are only too eager to "test" such weapons in Iran.

How many American citizens are going to be thinking about the "poor Iranian people" who will suffer from such attacks? The media has done a pretty damn good job of making all Iranians seem like they're as "wicked" as the guy we all see as the raving lunatic face of Iran, their president.

I'm afraid most U.S. citizens might awaken to the news of Iranian strikes and simply say, "Well, good! That'll show 'em we're still Number One!"

[The Wielding Truth]

9. Before Shock and Awe Repubs were saying at least it will help

the economy. Honestly, I was sickened and sad and really dumbstruck. I walked away because I thought how can you reason with such a thoughtless mind.

We here realize that we are not they only beings with souls. There are so many good people who are being crushed by the greed machine.

I'm sure there must be those in power who will grow a heart before it gets any worse.

[Ilsa]

6. I understand what you mean.

Before Iraq war we watch the Army transport via railroad all the trucks, etc from Fort Hood in Texas to Corpus Christi for shipping out to Iraq. My brother was travelling between Houston and Austin and saw the big trucks being shipped from the contracted builder to Fort Hood via rr, where they'd be checked out and painted before going out on the RR through our city.

The air activity you are observing may be a normal cycle, or extra prep. I tend to trust your gut on this, though. Something about it is different that you would pick up on it.

[vickitulsa]

8. Exactly. That's why I asked if others near bases were noticing prep phases.

It's always true that no matter how secret they manage to keep their planning and preparatory stages, the mobilization phase is evident and obvious in certain areas. I'm really wondering how much others have noticed who normally would be seeing troop movements, or in this case so far, activity associated with air attacks being imminent.

I'm really wanting to know what others are hearing and seeing out there across the country.

In keeping with your sig line by someone I've always admired, I'm NOT sure about this, and it's what I do NOT know that's worrying me! ;)

[Selatius]

10. From follks I know in the military, they say they haven't noticed any real big changes recently.

Although, to be forewarned, things could change a lot over the next several months. If they are going to move offensive military assets into the Persian Gulf region for a major air war against Iran, I'm pretty sure the international community would warn us. The Russians and Chinese would definitely be raising questions, at least behind closed doors with the Americans if something big was moving.

[vickitulsa]

11. Excellent point.

I appreciate your input. Seems logical that many in the international community might be not only more alert and aware of changes signalling another American attack/invasion soon to come but they would also mount a very loud hue and cry against it before it happened. That might, in fact, be the ONLY thing that could serve to restrain this military-minded m'f'ing administration from going forward with an attack on Iran. I can't see that they give a rat's ass about what American citizens think!

How the rest of the globe might react to such an outrage might be a different thing, however. I hope so! I'm really concerned about this, and every day it seems to have gotten worse, with the activity above me really amping up the last two weeks to a screaming pace.

I was very busy watching the breaking Iraq war news indoors then, but I do recall right after I moved here on March 20, 2003, that I was hearing a great amount of military air traffic overhead then, too. That was after most of our air resources were already over near Iraq or ripping back and forth from launch bases other than one near me, with mostly repairs and maintenance flights coming in here solo or in very small groups, but there were plenty of them even so.

Lately here, the squads above are larger than normal, too. Usually it's two to six in a group, and they make wide banking turns high and come in relatively slowly. Now there are eight and more in each group and they're tearing up the skies in a very frightening way. Scares ME! Can't imagine what it would be like to be on the receiving end of something like this coming to YOUR country....

(Launching GBU bunker buster bomb)

[miyazaki]

12. Same here out by 29 Palms Marine Base

in the mojave desert where I live. Very noticeable and recent increase over the past 2-3 weeks of all types of aircraft, including low flying
fighter jets blazin' right overhead. incredible sound. Same type of surge happened here a few years ago just before that big spring offensive
that occurred in Afghanistan. From thirty + miles away we feel the bomb concussions on a regular basis.

[vickitulsa]

13. Very interesting! "Incredible sound" is right ...

I never heard such a roar and can't imagine that anything short of an imminent "security" situation brought on by an attack on Iran would bring on these very low flights over residential areas.

Here in the park now that it's spring and we're all outside a lot (I work in my flowerbeds and yard and walk my dog), we residents often stand around visiting with each other or picnicking, and when these military jets fly in and out, we have to just stop talking and wait them out. The sound is so loud it literally hurts my ears and I have to cover them with my hands. We all cuss them and can't see the need for them to fly so damn LOW like they're doing now.

Previously, we'd just stop talking and wait them out, but of course then another one in the group comes by just as the previous one's noise is fading. Now there are so many we just give up trying to talk and many people go inside. The ground even shakes, and that's beyond annoying to scary.

Did you see the pic above of that F-117 firing a GBU missile? I can't imagine what it must be like to live where they drop the bombs for tests.