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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:28 PM Original message |
Poll question: Has the time come to end affirmative action and racial quotas? |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. There are NO RACIAL QUOTAS...get over your self!!! |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Really? Corporations don't have them? |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. NO CORPORATIONS DO NOT HAVE QUOTAS... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. My last company was required to have |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Especially if they have Government Contracts. |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. IT IS NOT THE LAW WITH GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Facts on Executive Order 11246 -- Affirmative Action --You are WRONG!!! |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. nowhere in that diatribe was the word QUOTA...IT DOES NOT EXIST |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Diatribe? That's the actual law!! |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I understand..but I am sayin it is words...fancy, cute words nothing more. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Def: diatribe - prolonged discourse, abusive speech or writing, satirical criticism |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. It is a prolonged discourse...that is only a LAW when it is prosecuted when it is broken |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. No, our conversation could be thought of as 'prolonged' but |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Okay Breeze54...it is not a diatribe..but it is not a law because it is not prosecuted |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. LOL...it is a Law but you have to file the complaint with the EOC! |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I'm learning so if there is a 'next time' no diatribe from me!!!! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. LOL... No worries..... |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. If I knew a bunch of black men who are qualified pile drivers I would!!! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. LOL! - Maybe your local EOC office has that data on their website! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #36 |
66. "it is not a law because it is not prosecuted"? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. contractors with 50 or more employees and government contracts of $50,000 or more are required |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. the company I worked for had a written AA program..it gathered dust |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Then they're lucky no one files a lawsuit with the EOC ...still doesn't make it right. |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. They were..I was married to my husband who is black..and they were not only mean |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Yes you should have sued. Maybe you still can, if you kept notes and |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Damn..glad you filed a complaint |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You don't complain to the company. You call the Equal Opportunity Commission |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Dern..wished I knew that then...been over 10 years now... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Well; at least now you know and you can help others having the same problem. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Yes it IS a law |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. QUOTAS IS NOT WRITTEN IN ANY LAW..SHOW ME THE WORD QUOTA |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. No reason to shout |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
38. I am talking about QUOTAS..not Affirmative Action...it was the word QUOTA |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
65. Makes it easy |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I worked for a company who had to comply with the EEO and fill out |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. If "and the company was 99.5% white" ; then they DID have a problem!! |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It was a racist company..but they never lost a government job because of it... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Crooked people handing out Gov. Contracts doesn't mean |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. have you seen the pre-job paperwork required before one can bid a government job?? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. It is still the law...that's why people hire EOO contract specialists and |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Sure if you are Coca Cola and don't want to get sued..not to get a government contract |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Most Human Resources Admins do that job. n/t |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Affirmative action is still necessary... for all |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Sadly I fear it will take another generation or two |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
17. Has the time come to end legacy admissions (affirmative action for white people)? |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
48. I got a star why not??? |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
19. You're on a mission, I see. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
34. You seem awfully obsessed with race. |
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beezlebum (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. yeah |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Over in GD-P he called Obama the "affirmative action candidate". |
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beezlebum (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. exactly. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. I guess someone needed to take Herman Munster's place as DU's resident race-baiter. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I suspect the Admins will catch up with this one as well. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 02:50 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Somehow I feel the mods may decide we're still one ignorant white guy over the limit |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Oh, I expect he will slip up before too long... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Herman's gone? Seriesly??? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Deleted sub-thread |
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
52. Also here to say that affirmative action isn't quotas . . . |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. touche...even the admision into Yale would not turn a white man black |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
55. I reject the question's premise ... |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. excellent work RGB |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Thank you ... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
56. Wow, coming back from your "week off" with a bang, I see |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
58. Hell no |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
59. affirmative action? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-03-08 03:45 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Yeah, he's definitely still pissed off about that one. |
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