"You don't go after the Bushes and get to talk about it. Ya got me?"

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Oliver Stone rushes to finish Bush film

Script asks: 'How did an alcoholic bum become most powerful leader in world?'

Ed Pilkington in New York
Thursday April 3, 2008



ABC News, which has read an early copy of the screenplay, describes it as a "warts-and-all portrayal", though judging by its account of the script it might more accurately be called a "warts-and-yet more warts" portrait.

Bush's early relationship with his father is depicted as problematic at best. When his father confronts him about his drinking after he crashes his car, the younger George Bush replies: "Mr Perfect. Mr War Hero. Mr Fucking God Almighty." The father also features heavily in the latter half of the screenplay, by which time Dubya has entered the world of politics.

Stone, a critic of the Iraq war, applies cod psychology to the president's motivations for the invasion, according to ABC's account of the screenplay. After the elder Bush's defeat in 1992 by Bill Clinton, his son tells him he would still be in the White House if he had toppled Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf war.

When the current president is asked in 2002 what his focus on Saddam is all about, he replies, in reference to a Kuwaiti claim that the Iraqi intelligence services plotted to assassinate his father during a visit to Kuwait in the spring of 1993: "You don't go after the Bushes and get to talk about it. Ya got me?"

http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2270318,00.html

[C_U_L8R]

1. Who plays Bush?

[Amerigo Vespucci]

2. Josh Brolin

:eyes:

[C_U_L8R]

4. Thx Amerigo

Interesting choice... sounds like it could be a real hoot of a movie

[Sinistrous]

3. Why not Kiefer Sutherland?

He does such a great job portraying that thug Jack Bower.

[zonmoy]

24. figure that before that they need to make a movie making hitler seem a good guy.

and then use the guy that had to play hitler.

[mnmoderatedem]

5. Ellen Burstyn will play his mother

And in the most appropriate example of art imitating life that I can think of, she also played the mother of the antichrist child in The Exorcist.

[leftchick]

6. ...

perfect!

:rofl:

[peekaloo]

16. AND the mother of a drug addicted loser in 'Requiem for a Dream'.

she comes well prepared. :evilgrin:

[morningglory]

7. I want Phillip Seymour Hoffman for KKKarl Rover. n/t

[lame54]

11. He would have to go on a special diet...

[peekaloo]

14. or maybe Victor Ashe.

:hide:

[bdamomma]

17. oh he would be perfect for the part!

[pacalo]

8. "There are plenty of Bushisms in the script, & scenes of him drinking vodka & cocktails."

[The Stranger]

21. McCormick, huh? Wow, nothing but the good stuff for the Bushes.

:sarcasm:

[El Pinko]

9. At first I thought I wouldn't want to see this...

...but if they are going to depict POS Bush as the pathetic little worm he was and is, I may just watch it with relish.

:)

[Lance_Boyle]

10. "Stone... applies cod psychology to the president's motivations"

Maybe carp psychology would've been more appropriate, with both subjects being bottom feeders.

[CoffeeCat]

12. On what is Stone basing the movie dialog?

We all know that the entire Bush family is a bunch of sociopathic
thugs who should all be in prison.

I'm certainly not going to suggest that it's bad to tell the truth about
these cretins.

However, I'd love to know on what material or sources Stone is basing his movie?
In particular, the dialog between father and son. Are there reliable sources
providing play-by-play of conversations, or is Stone just guessing?

We all can probably assume what went on behind the scenes in this family.
It's most likely 10 times worse than anything we're even imagining.

However, if Stone is making a movie without reliable sources, all we'll
get from this is one side saying it's all lies and the other side being
unable to defend any of it--even though we know the Bushes are despicable
criminals.

I just hate it when movies spark that kind of useless debate. Do we
really need to see and hear the Bush surrogates--on every media outlet
on the planet--talking about how wonderful and normal this family is?

Uhhhgh.

[quiet.american]

13. For one, the Shrub-Bush confrontation was recounted in the book "Fortunate Son."

The author of which, after receiving stringent threats from the Bush camp about the consequences of publishing the book, was found dead of "apparent suicide."

[bdamomma]

15. what a thuggish remark that is

"You don't go after the Bushes and get to talk about it. Ya got me?"


this man is a true criminal.

[CoffeeCat]

18. They are such fools...

Their entire family has done more damage to this country--than any natural disaster
or economic trauma--including 'The Great Depression.'

They are sorry losers with a clownish sense of entitlement.

They rose to power and had their chance. Now, they are a stain on
our country.

To inflict the damage that they have--and to have led such meaningless, destructive
lives---leaves them with no credibility.

They need to tuck away their pseudo-elitism and their sense of entitlement and come
to grips with their failures--and the fact that their legacy will be a grand failure.

[bdamomma]

19. this man is truly sick, psychotic sick, why can't we all scream that out???

and plus will anyone listen to us, I do think some in Congress are well aware of this man's mental state, and do not want to say anything, afraid perhaps??? but this sick man needs to be bodily removed so does Cheney.

[The Backlash Cometh]

20. More reason why we should be afraid of family dynasties.

Can you imagine all the CIA and Carlyle connections cultivated by the first Bush, just handed down to the incompetent son?

[bdamomma]

22. blah, family dynasties, is right.

[Yavin4]

23. What Is "cod psychology" ?

"Stone, a critic of the Iraq war, applies cod psychology to the president's motivations for the invasion, according to ABC's account of the screenplay."

[Chulanowa]

25. Well, what is a cod?

It's a cold fish that is constantly immersed in the drink, with its mouth moving but nothing coming out. It's usually full of worms, and is only acceptable when slathered in sauce.

[ArbustoBuster]

26. It appears to be a new-ish British slang term

It would mean pop psychology or pseudo-psychology in American English. (I saw both meanings of the term in my web search to figure out what it means.)