Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Stubborn Catholic deacon arrested in mall for wearing anti-war t-shirt.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:26 PM
Original message
Stubborn Catholic deacon arrested in mall for wearing anti-war t-shirt.
Good for him!!!!

The you-tube video about the arrest of the 80 year old war protester sent me looking for more info. The mall is owned by something called the Simon Property Group. Is a boycott in order?

Here's more info:

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-liwar305631629mar30,0,1085417.story

An 80-year-old church deacon was removed from the Smith Haven Mall yesterday in a wheelchair and arrested by police for refusing to remove a T-shirt protesting the Iraq War.

Police said that Don Zirkel, of Bethpage, was disturbing shoppers at the Lake Grove mall with his T-shirt, which had what they described as "graphic anti-war images." Zirkel, a deacon at Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal in Wyandanch, said his shirt had the death tolls of American military personnel and Iraqis - 4,000 and 1 million - and the words "Dead" and "Enough." The shirt also has three blotches resembling blood splatters.

Police said in a release last night that Zirkel was handing out anti-war pamphlets to mallgoers and that mall security told him to stop and turn his shirt inside out. Zirkel refused to turn his shirt inside out and wouldn't leave, police said. Security placed him on "civilian arrest" and called police. When police arrived, Zirkel passively resisted attempts to bring him to a police car, the release said.

But Zirkel said he was sitting in the food court drinking coffee with his wife Marie, 77, and several others when police and mall security officers approached and demanded they remove their anti-war T-shirts.

The others complied, but Zirkel said he refused, and when he wouldn't stand up to be removed and arrested, authorities brought over a wheelchair. "They forcibly picked me up and put me in the wheelchair," said Zirkel, a deacon at one of the poorest Catholic parishes on Long Island, where a devastating fire recently destroyed the rectory and storage areas.

Zirkel was charged with criminal trespassing and resisting arrest.

SNIP




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:39 PM
Response to Original message
1. Welcome to the new Amerika.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:44 PM
Response to Original message
2. he's done more than obamaclinton are doing about the iraq occupation nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:45 PM
Response to Original message
3. Uh oh.
I hope he has someone who can help him decorate his new home: The Smithaven Mall.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:46 PM
Response to Original message
4. Wow, fascist bastards.
What's the matter you lurking idiots? Too much truth giving you a rash?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
5. Thoughtcrime is doubleplusungood
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.


Big Brother is watching YOU!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:52 PM
Response to Original message
6. "graphic anti-war images"
:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

--IMM

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 09:55 PM
Response to Original message
7. Since they were acting within the law by ousting him,
it is up to consumers to express their disapproval of the mall's actions, and not spend any money there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Exactly. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:09 PM
Response to Original message
8. I know Simon owns lotsa malls all over the country
I think they are the ones that created the disappearing gift certificate - you know it loses so much % per month til it is gone. We avoid Simon's like a plague.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. You're right. And they're the largest owner of shopping malls in the U.S.
I bet they have these anti-free-speech policies all over the country.

http://nyjobsource.com/simon.html

I hope Mr. Zirkel helps inspire a national boycott. I'm ready.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #8
14. Find a Simon Mall near you!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. Great link! Thanks! Time to start writing letters . . . . n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #8
16. Simons are as taboo for me as the 'Mart. They also refuse any 'satanic' imagery
at their mall. My gf used to work at a Simons Hot Topic. There was little product in the store.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
10. I can't wait until the semester is over
..so I can get some friends together to bring hell to this mall.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Bring LOTS of friends. The more, the merrier. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
11. so you have to dress politically correct? folks, it may already be over.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 08:20 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC