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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:20 AM
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General William Odom Tells Senate- "Rapid Withdrawal Is Only Solution"
General William Odom Tells Senate
Rapid Withdrawal Is Only Solution

TESTIMONY BEFORE THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE ON IRAQ

By William E. Odom, LT General, USA, Ret.

2 April 2008

Good morning Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. It is an honor to appear before you again. The last occasion was in January 2007, when the topic was the troop surge. Today you are asking if it has worked. Last year I rejected the claim that it was a new strategy. Rather, I said, it is a new tactic used to achieve the same old strategic aim, political stability. And I foresaw no serious prospects for success.

I see no reason to change my judgment now. The surge is prolonging instability, not creating the conditions for unity as the president claims.

...

A number of reasons are given for not withdrawing soon and completely. I have refuted them repeatedly before but they have more lives than a cat. Let try again me explain why they don’t make
sense.

First, it is insisted that we must leave behind military training element with no combat forces to secure them. This makes no sense at all. The idea that US military trainers left alone in Iraq can be safe and effective is flatly rejected by several NCOs and junior officers I have heard describe their personal experiences. Moreover, training foreign forces before they have a consolidated political authority to command their loyalty is a windmill tilt. Finally, Iraq is not short on military skills.

Second, it is insisted that chaos will follow our withdrawal. We heard that argument as the “domino theory” in Vietnam. Even so, the path to political stability will be bloody regardless of whether we withdraw or not. The idea that the United States has a moral responsibility to prevent this ignores that reality. We are certainly to blame for it, but we do not have the physical means to prevent it. American leaders who insist that it is in our power to do so are misleading both the public and themselves if they believe it. The real moral question is whether to risk the lives of more Americans. Unlike preventing chaos, we have the physical means to stop sending more troops where many will be killed or wounded. That is the moral responsibility to our country which no American leaders seems willing to assume.

Third, nay sayers insist that our withdrawal will create regional instability. This confuses cause with effect. Our forces in Iraq and our threat to change Iran’s regime are making the region unstable. Those who link instability with a US withdrawal have it exactly backwards. Our ostrich strategy of keeping our heads buried in the sands of Iraq has done nothing but advance our enemies’ interest.

I implore you to reject these fallacious excuses for prolonging the commitment of US forces to war in Iraq.

Thanks for this opportunity to testify today.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19671.htm">LINK
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:22 AM
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1. ....and the media pounced on this......not
we now have a nation that is run by the media....they choose what we see, hear and think.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:29 AM
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4. That's why blogs are becoming increasingly important. This needs
front page exposure.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:25 AM
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2. Someone should pass this on to the Obama Camp.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:28 AM
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3. RECOMMEND! nt
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:37 AM
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5. Blow the installations and equipment....
... in place and load the fucking planes with troops... NOW!

The US broke it, but can't fix it.

How about we just leave and let those poor people get on with their Civil War. It's gonna be a bloody mess with or without our ham-fisted interference, and the outcome is going to be bad for the US interventionist foreign policy, but if we stay, we're just one more disasterous faction in that mess.

If only the US could learn from this clusterfuck, but noooo! Some poor, unsuspecting country is even now being eyeballed for US "liberation".
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 12:06 PM
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8. Put Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest in shackles and orange jumpsuits...
...and leave them in downtown Baghdad when the US troops pull out.

We can say "sorry" while we're at it, but I don't think that'll help much...
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:17 AM
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6. Amazingly I used similar arguments


I made the same arguments with a pro-stay in Iraq democrat, and he kept pounding 'made-for-democrat' fox news talking points. "We broke it, we fix it" and "We must prevent Genocide."

How the hell can we get these people to think rationally about this???
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:59 AM
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7. Odom is a smart guy, who knows what he's talking about.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:42 PM
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9. kicking
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:54 PM
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10. What the American & Iraqi people want does not matter.
The US Oligarchy wants the US Occupation to continue for many more years.

The natural resources of Iraq under the control of US Multi Corps trumps any other
considerations.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:00 PM
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11. Good. Wish he would have stated that Iraq is ALREADY in chaos...and talk about
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 06:04 PM by wiggs
ruination of institutions, lack of water and power, number of refugees, etc..

Another DU thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3106669
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:15 PM
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12. The RW spin machine will just start smearing Odom now
Isn't that the usual way it works? Smear the messenger, not the message
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:22 PM
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13. They won't smear him because it will draw attention to the issue.
They will igonore him.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:39 PM
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14. You have a point. They won't smear him unless it becomes a story.
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