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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:35 AM
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Attack on 4th Ammendment continues.
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:37 AM by lonestarnot
'The October 2001 memo arguing for unregulated military searches on U.S. soil has not been formally withdrawn and remains a secret but unclassified document.' Administration Asserted Fourth Amendment Does Not Apply to Domestic Military Operations In Terror Fight 04 Apr 2008 The Justice Department concluded in October 2001 that military operations combating terrorism inside the United States are not limited by Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures, in one of several secret memos containing new and controversial assertions of presidential power. The memo, sent on Oct. 23, 2001, to the Defense Department and the White House by the Office of Legal Counsel, focused on the rules governing any deployment of U.S. forces inside the country "in the event of further large-scale terrorist activities" by al-Qaeda, a Justice Department official said yesterday. The October 2001 memo arguing for unregulated military searches on U.S. soil has not been formally withdrawn and remains a secret but unclassified document, according to Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse.


Post-9/11 Memo Indicates View Around Constitution



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040304136.html

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040300067.html

For at least 16 months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Bush administration argued that the Constitution's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures on U.S. soil did not apply to its efforts to protect against terrorism.

That view was expressed in a secret Justice Department legal memo dated Oct. 23, 2001. The administration stressed yesterday that it now disavows that view.

The October 2001 memo was written at the White House's request by John Yoo, then the deputy assistant attorney general, and addressed to Alberto R. Gonzales, then the White House counsel. The37-page memo has not been released.


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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:46 AM
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1. "in the event of further large-scale terrorist activities" by al-Qaeda,
That's the line that has been bothering me. Are they planning to MIHOP?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:26 PM
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3. Could be. One lie leads to another.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:12 PM
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2. This "power" has so blatantly been manufactured out of thin air,...
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 12:20 PM by MilesColtrane
...with no precedent in 200+ years of law in this country, and it is so obviously a violation of a guaranteed Constitutional right, that I'd like to think that even Bush SC appointees would strike it down.

But, you never know.

on edit: In retrospect, Tommy Franks' statetment:

“It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution."


...indicates that he must have gotten the memo.





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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:27 PM
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4. Certainly does look like it.
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