Judge Sends Libby Jury Home

[Me.]

"UPDATE* — THE LIBBY JURY HAS LEFT THE BUILDING, THE JUDGE HAD A MEETING AND SENT THEM HOME. SEE YOU TOMORROW….and I'll be on Rachel Maddow's show tonight on Air America at 6:30 PM ET -JH"

Edited to add link: http://www.firedoglake.com/

[stop the bleeding]

1. and so we wait

again, please let them be close to getting this guy

[rodeodance]

5. its ben a week now.

[H2O Man]

2. Good night!

Now it's time to say good night
Good night Sleep tight
Now the sun turns out his light
Good night Sleep tight
Dream sweet dreams for me
Dream sweet dreams for you.

Close your eyes and I'll close mine
Good night Sleep tight
Now the moon begins to shine
Good night Sleep tight
Dream sweet dreams for me
Dream sweet dreams for you.

Close your eyes and I'll close mine
Good night Sleep tight
Now the sun turns out his light
Good night Sleep tight
Dream sweet dreams for me
Dream sweet dreams for you.

Good night Good night Everybody
Everybody everywhere
Good night

(John Lennon)

[Me.]

4. Someone Won't Be Sleeping

Not you or Me.

[myrna minx]

11. See you tomorrow, H2O man.

:hi: Same Bat Time. Same Bat Channel.

[H2O Man]

12. It's going to be

a good day. Not for Scooter and the OVP. But for those with an interest in justice, it will be very good, indeed.

[spanone]

47. Good Morning, Good Morning, Good Morning.

[H2O Man]

48. I've got a feeling ...

I've Got A Feeling (Lennon/McCartney)

I've got a feeling, a feeling deep inside
Oh yeah, Oh yeah.
I've got a feeling, a feeling I can't hide
Oh no. Oh no, Oh no,
Yeah I've got a feeling.

Oh please believe me, I'd hate to miss the train
Oh yeah, Oh yeah.
And if you leave me I won't be late again
Oh no, Oh no, Oh no.
Yeah I've got a feeling yeah.

All these years I've been wandering around,
Wondering how come nobody told me
All that I was looking for was somebody
Who looked like you.

Ev'rybody had a hard year
Ev'rybody had a good time
Ev'rybody had a wet dream,
Ev'rybody saw the sunshine
Oh yeah, Oh yeah.
Ev'rybody had a good year,
Ev'rybody let their hair down,
Ev'rybody pulled their socks up,
Ev'rybody put their foot down.
Oh yeah, Oh yeah.

[Me.]

49. Listen, Do You Want To Know A Secret?

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/02/victorias_secre.html

[H2O Man]

50. ...said Scooter

to Judith .....

[Me.]

51. He's A Real Nowhere Man

PF to jury re: Wells

He's as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Man can you see me at all?
Nowhere Man, don't worry,
Take your time, don't hurry,
Leave it all till somebody else
lends you a hand.

[slowry]

13. Ah good-ah night ah-ding-ding ding-ding ding-ding dinggggg

[bleever]

24. I always thought Ringo wrote that,

since he sings it. Ya learn something every day.

P.S.: my dad called to say it looked like a hung jury. I said nope, I read the tea leaves as guilty on multiple counts. So my reputation is on the line.

[H2O Man]

28. You might enjoy this:

"Ringo also gets to warble the White Album finale, John's 'Good Night,' in front of a children's choir and 30-piece orchestra. According to Lennon: 'I just said to George Martin, "Arrange it like Hollywood. Yeah, corney".' Nothing could possibly be more outrageously kitsch -- or more outrageously incongruous, coming immediately after eight minutes of 'Revolution 9' ...."
-- The Beatles Forever; Nicholas Schaffner; 1977; page 115

[bleever]

32. And it works!

I pulled out my White Album LP and fired up the turntable to play it for my kids a couple years ago. Corny but beautiful. Thanks for the background!

[Clark2008]

37. "I Dig a Pygmy by Charles Hortrey and the Deaf Aids, Phase One in which Doris gets her oats"

I know that's on Let It Be and not the White Album, but it just popped into my head for some reason.

LOL.

[bleever]

44. Too

damn

funny.

If you can include (as The Beatles did) the most serious with the most hilarious, together in the same whole, you're on pretty solid ground.

But still: wear a helmet!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. And Tomorrow, We Shall Climb Aboard The Rollercoaster Once Again.

[Warpy]

6. Uh oh

I smell hung jury, one or two retards refusing to vote guilty because they love this administration so much and the preacher said they'll go to hell if they send Scooter to jail.

[grasswire]

7. where have you been?

Have you missed the DU discussions where someone objects to the use of the word "retard" to describe particularly cretinous conservatives? Mentally retarded people are victims of bad fortune. Their infirmity is not a moral failure or character flaw.

So stop it. Some of us have mentally "retarded" family members.

[kimmerspixelated]

9. Not Again!

[catgirl]

17. I was thinking the same thing

I saw a heartbreaking special years ago where a woman
described how painful it is hearing that. Her son is
retarded.

[tavalon]

25. Well, just to chime in another point of view

My son is mentally retarded and I have no problem with people using the word to delineate willfully stupid. I'm able to distinguish. Nobody is dissing my boy because his disability isn't his fault.

[grasswire]

34. Does HE have a problem with it?

Your feelings really aren't the important ones here. How does he feel when he hears someone say "retard" used in a slur?

[tavalon]

42. He's autistic as well

While I see your point, he doesn't appear to give a damn what anybody says. I'm just saying that the term has nothing to do with actual mentally disabled folks.

[grasswire]

45. tell that to a child who can understand there's an insult in it. (eom)

[Warpy]

29. .....which is why I didn't use the whole word

I've never known a mentally retarded person to be downright mean.

Repugs are.

The word was used in a joking fashion, so lighten up.

[grasswire]

33. nope, not going to lighten up

And I hope you never have to look at the pain in the eyes of a handicapped child in your family when some unthinking person uses the name of their condition to utter a bitter slur. Would you use "cripple" in the same manner? No? Then please don't use "retard."

[kimmerspixelated]

8. Who ARE these people

that have these doubting thomas mindsets? I can't stand the suspense! MAYBE TOMORROW?!!! How long have we heard that???

[TahitiNut]

14. Simplistic hogwash. They're considering FIVE separate charges.

They can unanimously acquit or convict on any or all of those charges as well as fail to come to a unanimous decision ('hang') on any or all. The chances they'd 'hang' on all charges are vanishingly small ... and all that means ('mistrial') would be that Fitz could choose to bring it to trial again or not.

IMHO, it's not as much a question of whther he'll be found guilty, but a question of how many charges he'll be found guilty of.

[Warpy]

30. I disagree

because I know true believers who would vote to acquit on all charges against the rest of the jury just because they are true believers who confuse this administration with Jebus and his 12 disciples.

[TahitiNut]

31. Then Wells gave them more than enough reason to convict Libby ...

... under the theory that Libby will take the fall for Rove and his boss. After all, Fitzgerald represents the government, right? I have enough confidence in Fitzgerald that I doubt a total reichbot got on the jury.

[hlthe2b]

35. How about trying a little positive thinking, Warpy...

This constant drum beat that the jury must be hung is hard to take after awhile. None of us knows, so let's just TRY to think that justice will prevail... Just for a little while, ok?

[Me.]

38. Another Song

AC-CENT-TCHU-ATE THE POSITIVE (Mister In-Between)

(Johnny Mercer / Harold Arlen)

You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum
Bring gloom down to the minimum
Have faith or pandemonium
Liable to walk upon the scene

(To illustrate his last remark
Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark
What did they do
Just when everything looked so dark)

Man, they said we better
Accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between
No, do not mess with Mister In-Between
Do you hear me, hmm?

(Oh, listen to me children and-a you will hear
About the elininatin' of the negative
And the accent on the positive)
And gather 'round me children if you're willin'
And sit tight while I start reviewin'
The attitude of doin' right

(You've gotta accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between)

You've got to spread joy (up to the maximum)
Bring gloom (down) down to the minimum
Otherwise (otherwise) pandemonium
Liable to walk upon the scene

To illustrate (well illustrate) my last remark (you got the floor)
Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark
What did they say (what did they say)
Say when everything looked so dark

Man, they said we better
Accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between
No! Don't mess with Mister In-Between

[Warpy]

39. Optimists are often crushed

while pessimists have the opportunity once in a while of being pleasantly surprised.

A method to my madness.

[Me.]

40. True Optimists Are Never Crushed

And I'm hoping we meet up when the jury comes in and I find a Warpy with a :)

[Warpy]

43. Thanks, so do I

I dearly love being proven wrong when I'm at my most pessimistic.

As I've said, I adore pleasant surprises.

I just never count on them.

[hlthe2b]

41. As long as you don't talk yourself into preferring to be "right"

than to see the result you think you prefer..

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

10. I'm guessing that what we are seeing...

is a very responsible jury, approaching this case carefully and methodically, with due regard for the impact their decision will have on the body politic.

I am not in a hurry for a verdict. I want only for justice to be served, all the way up the food chain.

[youngdem]

15. Your sense of humor is VERY dry....Love this line

"I'm guessing what we are seeing is a very responsible jury, approaching this case carefully and methodically, with due regard for the impact their decision will have on the body politic."

I sat and stared for a few minutes trying to determine if you were joking....I have concluded that you must be. Hilarious!

I have been to jury duty, so I have seen just what a joke this is. 'carefully and methodically'....(eyes watering)

I bet $1000 we've got a wingnut or two on that jury that just WON'T budge and the rest of the jury is doggedly trying to turn them - I suspect they came close to hanging the other day when the note was passed forward then rescinded. Just my guess.

[rudy23]

18. I'm with you--I wanna be optimistic, but can't. I remember '00, '04, Katrina, etc. too well. nt

[blogslut]

20. It's all a guess at this point

My guess is there will be at least one guilty verdict on at least one count. :)

I've been to jury duty too!

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

21. Perhaps your presence had a negative impact...

I have done my time in the box - a four-count felony rap for home invasion/armed robbery with special circumstances because he used a gun. We were a disparate lot, some more educated than others, 4 or 5 races, both sexes.

We damn sure took it seriously, and even though the case as presented was quite simple, we carefully discussed every single detail until all were in agreement. Emphatically yes, we were responsible, careful, and methodical, with due regard for the impact our decision would have on the young criminal.

Then we convicted him, and he is now serving 4 consecutive 25-to-life sentences. I sleep well at night knowing that I and my fellow jury members performed our duties honorably. I expect nothing less from the Libby jury.

FYI - the note concerned count 3,

"We would like clarification on the charge as stated under Count 3 specifically:

Page 74 of the jury instructions, "Count three of the indictment alleges that Mr. Libby falsely told the FBI on October 14 or November 26, 2003, that during a conversation with M. Cooper of Time Magazine on July 12, 2003, Mr. Libby told Mr. Cooper that reporters were telling the administration that Mr. Wilson's wife worked for the CIA but that Mr. Libby did not know of this was true. (i.e., is the charge that the statement was made or about theh content of the statement itself)

Judge's note at the bottom — I am not exactly certain what you are asking me. Can you please clarify your question?

After further discussion, we are clear on what we need to do. No further clarification needed. Thank you. We apologize." (per FDL)

[annabanana]

27. dear youngone.. .

If you are curious as to the way it is going. . read up on the "Libby Live" threads at firedoglake.com

I think "hung jury" is highly unlikely.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

36. They're certainly "methodical..."

[myrna minx]

46. I sat on a jury for a civil trial and we jurors

took our charge very seriously. We were a mixture of ethnicities, white collar, service worker, and blue collar. We had 5 counts that we needed to review and it took us a whole day to determine the out come of all 5 counts. We deliberated long and hard for a *civil* trial, so I imagine how thoughtfully these jurors are approaching their own deliberations. You are speaking for yourself only.

[DemReadingDU]

16. Me too!

The jurors may be asked to speak after the verdict, and the jurors are making sure they understand all the charges and the way they decided to convict. I am optimistic here. :)

[H2O Man]

19. Right.

I think that a lot of people are limited to seeing situations in terms of "half empty vs half full."

Things are good.

[Me.]

22. I Shall Keep The Faith

I can remember when there were plenty who said we wouldn't even get this far with the case.

[H2O Man]

23. Right.

In the early months of 2005, many people were convinced that the grand jury investigation had come to a stand-still, and that nothing would come of it. But here we are today.

[bleever]

26. Even though

"there was no underlying crime". I literally want to scream every time I hear that fiction repeated and left unchallenged.