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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:22 PM
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More U.S. Troops to Be Sent to Afghanistan - To look for Osama in his magical mountain fortress?
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 05:23 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_More_US_Troops_to_Be_Sent_to_Afghanistan_15993.html

Defense secretary Robert Gates confirmed what president George W. Bush announced at a NATO summit in Bucharest, Romania: that the United States would increase the number of troops in Afghanistan, regardless of whether troops in Iraq would be reduced.

At the NATO session that included Afghan president Hamid Karzai on Thursday, Bush said the U.S. is determined to win the war in Afghanistan, and would continue to be, even if he had to leave the office in January.

Gates said he advised Bush to announce about the additional combat troops, even though this will be a decision for the next president to take in 2009, as both parties greatly support the victory in Afghanistan, so the promise that the president made would surely be fulfilled, even with someone else as president.

"The president wanted to make it clear that the United States is committed to Afghanistan for the long haul and to send a signal to our allies that at the same time we are asking them to commit additional troops to Afghanistan that they know that we will also continue to have a significant troop presence . . . regardless of the situation in Iraq," said White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe, according to the Washington Post.



The Lair of Bin Laden is a fictoid that originated in the highly-enterprising British press on November 27th, 2001. The chronology is as follows. On November 26th, the New York Times carried a story based on the account of an a ex-Russian soldier, Viktor Kutsenko, who had served in Afghanistan in the nineteen-eighties in which he claimed that there had seen an elaborate cave complex in Zhawar with "iron doors" that contained " a bakery, a hotel with overstuffed furniture, a hospital with an ultrasound machine, a library, a mosque, weapons of every imaginable stripe; a service bay with a World War II-era Soviet tank inside, in perfect running order." The historic story then added "Mr. bin Laden is reported to have upgraded both it and a nearby camp in the 1990's."

On November 27th, the London-based Independent came up with its own fairly similar troglodyte story, except that it had moved the underground fortress from Zhawar to Tora Bora, where the manhunt for bin Laden was about to begin, and advanced it in time from the nineteen-eighties to the present. snip

The story probably reached its high point on NBC's Meet The Press on December 2nd when Tim Russert, the host of the program, provided Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld with the artist's rendering of bin Laden's fortress. The interview proceeded:

Russert: The Times of London did a graphic, which I want to put on the screen for you and our viewers. This is it. This is a fortress. This is a very much a complex, multi-tiered, bedrooms and offices on the top, as you can see, secret exits on the side and on the bottom, cut deep to avoid thermal detection so when our planes fly to try to determine if any human beings are in there, it's built so deeply down and embedded in the mountain and the rock it's hard to detect. And over here, valleys guarded, as you can see, by some Taliban soldiers. A ventilation system to allow people to breathe and to carry on. An arms and ammunition depot. And you can see here the exits leading into it and the entrances large enough to drive trucks and cars and even tanks. And it's own hydroelectric power to help keep lights on, even computer systems and telephone systems. It's a very sophisticated operation.

Rumsfeld: Oh, you bet. This is serious business. And there's not one of those. There are many of those. And they have been used very effectively. And I might add, Afghanistan is not the only country that has gone underground. Any number of countries have gone underground. The tunneling equipment that exists today is very powerful. It's dual use. It's available across the globe. And people have recognized the advantages of using underground protection for themselves.

A few weeks after the "Meet the Press" interview, US special forces and their Afghan allies occupied Tora Bora. They painstakingly searched Gree Khil mountain and the surrounding area. They found no underground fortress, no hydro-electric power plant, no 2000-room hotel, no ant farm, no iron doors, no ventilating shafts. The troglodyte Lair of Bin Laden turned out to be mythic.

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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:36 PM
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1. Repeat after me: "Osama bin Laden is dead. He's DEAD Jim..*DEAD*!
Fox News: "Bin Laden Already Dead"

Wednesday, December 26, 2001

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
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Keep repeating over and over until it sinks in...

Thanks...

Ghost

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:35 PM
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7. Someone should tell georgie.
:silly:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 05:37 PM
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2. We will soon be hearing of Iranian Command and Control Centers.
Underground, of course.

They are itching to use some of those tactical nuke bunker-busters.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:09 PM
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3. I remember that silly graphic
It's a concept someone like Albert Broccoli could have had fun with. It floored me that people were actually taking it seriously.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:27 PM
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4. HA! I'd forgotten that ridiculous picture...
Like the rolling chemical factories and the aluminum tubes... all bullshit..
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:27 PM
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5. With all this talk about an attack on Iran, well, look at the border.
Afghanastan has a border with Iran that is just about as long as Iraq's border with Iran. How would your feel if you were Iran; America fully armed on your western border with Iraq, American fully armed on your eastern border with Afghanastan, American carriers in the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman to your south. The 'ijans' and the 'istans' to your north won't offer any protection and Turkey to the northwest will side with the Americans too. American may say terrorists are the target but it looks to me more like our aim is fixed on Tehran and we're just reinforcing our other flank.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:47 PM
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8. I bet their IED factories are working 24/7 in anticipation for the worst
I agree at the first sign of weakness Iran's leaders show Bush the bully will surely attack.

Don
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quadriga Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:32 PM
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6. Gates just doesn't have the dazzle that Rumsferatu had.
I guess that's why they picked him. Low profile, quiet demeanor. I can not even conjure up a picture in my mind of what Gates even looks like. That's the way they want it.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:51 PM
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9. Some Dem needs to whip that picture out for Russert and see what he says now about it now
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 07:52 PM by NNN0LHI
I would pay money to see the expression on that pumpkin heads face.

Don
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:24 PM
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10. K&R n/t
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