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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:31 PM
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If Countrywide goes belly up...I think I should not have to pay my mortgage
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its only fair
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:35 PM
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1. I'm with you. I'm with Countrywide also. But you know our
trusted government will bail them out with our tax dollars, which means you and I will pay for that also.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:36 PM
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2. Good luck with that.
;-)
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:38 PM
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3. You don't have to pay your mortgage. You don't have to keep your house either. nt
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:38 PM
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4. Is Countrywide ready to go belly up?
We have our mortgage with them, too.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:41 PM
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8. They'll just sell your mortgage to some other "trusted" mortgage company.
Not too worry.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:31 PM
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16. It has already been sold, probably a month after it closed. n/t
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:39 PM
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5. LOL- me, too.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:40 PM
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6. The government will bail out Countrywide.
They will NOT bail out a common citizen. Of, by, and for the corporations, Et corporatus unum.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:32 PM
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17. Yeah, and the CEO of Countrywide was of of the highest paid CEOs in the country.
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 07:32 PM by PA Democrat
I think it's about time for a little "personal responsibility" for greedy irresponsible CEOs.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:41 PM
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7. Good luck. Let us all know how it turns out...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:43 PM
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9. ...
:evilgrin:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:44 PM
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10. i'll probably miss that reply.. living in our Ford escort on the street, with mom, wife & 2 dogs
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 06:48 PM
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11. Sounds good to me. i have three mortgages with them.
;-)
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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:14 PM
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12. Someone will buy the debt
You can actually sell debt to someone else.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:21 PM
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13. Well, you don't have to now, but you don't get to keep the house. nt
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:28 PM
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14. If Countrywide goes belly up, two things can happen
The first, and best option is that Countrywide will sell your mortgage to somebody else, and you keep making your payments to that particular entity.

The second is that Countrywide calls in all of its outstanding mortgages, including yours, and you will have to pay up the full amount or default on the mortgage and lose your house.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:53 AM
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26. They CAN'T call it in early (foreclose) unless you default.
The loan is a contract. I've read mine, they can only demand payment of the balance in full (foreclose) if I miss a payment. The laws allow some loans to be re-negotiated at will by the lender (such as credit cards) but mortgages can only be re-negotiated by the lender if it's in the loan contract - which is limited to adjustable mortgages. I have yet to see a fixed mortgage with a clause allowing it to be re-negotiated by the lender. This why they pushed alternative loans so heavily.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:12 AM
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27. Read the fine print
Many mortgage contracts have a small print clause allowing banks to call in the full amount at will. This is part of what was so devastating about the Great Depression, banks started going under and called in all their mortgages. People were made homeless in a day.

Some lenders still practice this, some don't. Read the fine print.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:36 AM
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30. I've yet to see a fixed with that kind of fine print.
I've seen a lot of them. I've seen alternative loan products with those clauses, but not one fixed. Never. For 15 years I worked weekends for a mortage broker. With the "fancy" loans they are packed with print that give the lender the right to screw the pooch. The reason they started pushing all these loans in the first place is because there is much less law governing what the bank can do than on fixed loans. Now that alternative loans have hit the fan either governments will put the smackdown on those too or they'll be outlawed outright. Time will tell.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:37 AM
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31. No, "most" mortgages are not "at will" debts. Most can only be accelerated
if there is a default by the mortgagor.

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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:30 PM
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15. Good luck on that!
Your home is the collateral for the mortgage you signed up for. You either pay it in full or you lose it. Countrywide no longer holds your debt, it has been sold as part of a package of loans to investors. They will expect payment or the home.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:40 PM
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18. of course I know I will continue to pay
I am just saying
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:29 PM
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19. Good try. If the deal goes through with BofA
you'll just be writing your checks to them instead of Countrywide.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:58 PM
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20. I thought that was already done?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 09:46 PM
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21. No, they've offered to buy and the offer has been accepted
but all the legal stuff hasn't quite gone through.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:46 AM
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24. Thanks Warpy.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:16 PM
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22. YEah...
You getting your house for free is right. :eyes:
They'll sell it to someone else to service for pennies on the dollar, and you'll go on paying your mortgage. Hopefully the next company will actually know how to run their business and you'll no longer hate your mortgage company. I wish everyone had their loans serviced by my company.
Duckie
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:20 PM
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23. They are a corporation
you are a citizen

You have no rights

they do...

Rise Up
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:51 AM
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25. So, you don't feel morally obliged to do what you have promised?
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 08:52 AM by ThomWV
Or did someone have a gun at your head when you signed the agreement to repay the loan?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:27 AM
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28. thats stupid
and i love you anyway, lol

hey dont get why you posted this but.... nah. doesnt work for me
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:34 AM
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29. Fair? Why is it fair?
How have you been harmed if Countrywide goes bankrupt?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:40 AM
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32. If you go belly up, you (your estate) still has to pay your mortgage.
If they go belly up, you still have to pay your mortgage.


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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:42 AM
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33. Just send them a letter telling them you are doing a "write-down"
just like THEY do :)
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