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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:28 AM
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Sub-Prime Religion
Fundamentalism is to religion what sub-prime is to mortgages: a very expensive con game.

Fundamentalism makes incredible promises - salvation with no money down. Just say the magic words (sign here) and you're saved. No credit checks. No saving up. Move right in to your spiritual mansion.

But as soon as the fundies get the sucker into their church, they start "readjusting the interest rate". Of course, there is tithing. And then they set things up so that if you don't have a lot of kids you can't possibly afford, you're some kind of sinner. And they start wanting you to spend every spare minute being part of their "loving community". You know, being an obnoxious, in-your-face evangelizer, picketing abortion clinics, writing letters to Congressmen, sending money to TV evangelists, attending Justice Sunday.

Pretty soon, the sucker has to give up the rest of their life in order to service this sub-prime "bargain" religion. The alternative is to declare spiritual bankruptcy and just walk away. Leave their community, perhaps leave their equally looney spouse, leave the kids. Or maybe, the sucker is a woman, like Andrea Yates, and the bankruptcy is her sanity and the lives of her children.

Sub-prime religion discredits honest religions, the same way subprime mortgages polluted the whole financial industry. And, the honest religions are just as culpable as the honest banks. The non-fundamentalist religions have not blown the whistle on the blatant fraud of fundamentalist spirituality, much less the predatory greed and naked political ambition of the phony ministers who run these scams. The honest religions have benefitted from the epidemic of religiosity flooding our corporate media and being spouted by fundamentalist politicians and TV evangelists. But, do you ever hear a TV show where a mainstream minister stands up and denounces fundamentalism for the racket that it is?

Just like finance, an unregulated free market in religion brings out con-men, fraud, and criminality. And just like finance, the honest players have sunk themselves by going along with the con. We used to have the common sense to hold onto our wallets around people who play games with money; but we seem to have lost that sense about mortgages and about people who play games with "salvation".

Unfortunately for America, when religion is debased, so is morality. The result is acquiesence in wars of aggression, in massive civilian deaths in Iraq, in torture, in the destruction of the rule of law, in massive economic looting. As a nation, we are spiritually bankrupt.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:33 AM
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1. Amen
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:05 AM
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2. Front page kick n/t
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:30 AM
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3. Excellent analogy! nt
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:54 AM
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4. Thanks. I thought so too. But...
I can never predict DU. This one isn't catching on.

Unlike my historical analogies, this one requires no historical knowledge - just does A resemble B? And it sure as hell does. But no one cares.

Maybe I need to do a new thread: "DU doesn't get framing".

Religion is a sacred cow in America. As long as you say "I'm doing this for religious reasons", no one can call you on it. I am sick and tired of listening to used car salesmen in preachers' collars telling me I'm an immoral person.

Open question: can there be "standards" in religion without violating the First Amendment? I mean, can you enforce "incitement to riot" against a preacher? Will the Feds EVER enforce "no political activity" on FUNDAMENTALIST churches, instead of Unitarians and Quakers?

I am increasingly disenchanted with religion and religious organizations in America. Far from being the "backbone" of society, they are a source of endless rightwing agitation. And the "moderate" preachers don't rock the boat. Sam Harris is right - once you step into a religious framework, the extremists/literalits will always win.

arendt
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:31 PM
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5. Well, then, here's a K & R!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:29 PM
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12. I agree! NT
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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 04:08 PM
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6. Quixotic front page kick (sigh) n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 05:04 PM
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7. Don't so-called moderate churches also ask for money?
If so, how are they qualitatively different from the fundies?

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arendt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:21 PM
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9. Everyone asks for money...
but, if just "admitting the lord is your savior" makes you saved, then where does it say you had better contribute to the church or you won't be saved.

My point is that the whole "just say the word" proselytizing is false on its face. Its "just say the word", and then start paying us.

Now, in other churches, no one promises you salvation. They say that is up to god. Then they ask for your money without making the obscene promises the fundies do.

arendt
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:34 PM
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8. K&R
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:58 PM
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10. Kick n/t
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:08 PM
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11. K&R
Nice way of framing the issue..
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:36 PM
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13. Gimme that sub-prime religion,
Gimme that sub-prime religion,
Gimme that sub-prime religion,
It's good enough for me!

It was good for Jim and Tammy,
It was good for Jim and Tammy,
It was good for Jim and Tammy,
And it's good enough for me!

It was good for Bush** and Cheney,
It was good for Bush** and Cheney,
It was good for Bush** and Cheney,
And it's good enough for me!
O8)

Too late for R, but certainly K'd.
;-)
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