Should torture be allowed?

[texshelters]

Are there any circumstances when torture is justified?

Does the United States, any country or nation, or the police need to torture?

What happens when one group tortures another?

See Taxi to the Darkside and then decide for yourself.

Tex Shelters

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. no.

No.
no.

No.
no.

No.
no.

No.
no.

No.
no.

No.
no.

I hope my point was clear.

[Squatch]

2. This soldier says "NO"

[lonestarnot]

3. Why would I need to see that bullshit? Are you nuts?

:crazy:

[texshelters]

8. Bullshit? what's bullshit?

Can you explain this comment. The movie is an excellent history of torture during the Iraq and it contains interviews of participants that you won't see elsewhere. I am not sure why you would call it Bullshit unless:

1. You don't care to see what you already know

2. You think the movie is lying and supports terrorism.

It is certainly not 2, the movie actually tells us that to be a moral country, we need to end torture.

Can you explain?

Tex Shelters

[lonestarnot]

10. I don't need to watch anything about fucking torture to know that it is fucking WRONG!

Just fucking insulting!

[texshelters]

24. I am sorry you feel insulted--why take it personally?

It is a great movie. I guess since you know everything, there is no need for you to see the movie because you are such an expert.

Sorry I doubted that there were some geniuses out there that couldn't learn a thing from a movie that does a great job documenting the terror prisons.

Tex Shelters

[Perry Logan]

4. Yes--it's OK to torture Republicans. Torture is like fraternity hazing to them.

[alfredo]

11. They already torture each other with their "logic."

[sam sarrha]

5. only on some of the Trolls that post in GD-P...

[texshelters]

9. What?

TS

[madokie]

6. Never in a million years ;-)

[NNN0LHI]

7. Would you want a torturer as a next door neighbor?

Even if they had only tortured animals in the past?

Would ya?

Don

[mac2]

12. No it is cruel and unusual punishment

for a civil society. Remember the Constitution. Vietnam showed it to be ineffective and even dangerous since it can be used as a fear tactic more than finding out the truth.

[alfredo]

13. Only if the goals are intimidating a population, destroying a person, forcing

false confessions, and spending your life in prison for war crimes.

[peacebird]

14. Never. No excuses. No exceptions. Period. Not only is it morally wrong, it is ineffective

for getting GOOD INTELLIGENCE.

People say what the torturers want to hear.

[AmericanUnity]

15. Absolutely not! We've always been the country that did the right thing. We've tortured innocents

[spanone]

16. torture an animal, go to prison. torture a human and the president stands behind you

fucking no

[Tuesday Afternoon]

17. no. period. end of discussion. eom.

the end.
amen.

[peace frog]

18. Never

under any circumstances.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

19. No.

Lovely myspace page. You're on the wrong site. On Edit: (then again...your myspace page is probably a parody...and I fell for it. Nice. :thumbsup:)

[angrycarpenter]

20. The worst torture we do gets no air time

They lock them in darkened sound proof cells with no indications of the passage of time. Even the meals are given at random intervals to avoid any kind of routine. then after several weeks of this they are yanked out into a cell with bright flashing lights and loud heavy metal music and doused with cold water. They are so shocked that they will then spill their guts. If no information is obtained they repeat until the prisoner has reverted to a helpless child like state.

To me this is a torture that makes waterboarding seem like child's play.

The answer is NO. We have been torturing people since the beginning of time it is time for it to stop. If they will do it to a suspected terrorist they will do it to any of us, given the proper rationalization.

[stellanoir]

21. The fact that this issue has even entered the national dialogue as a

consideration in this day and age is utterly reprehensible to me.

Extreme rendition = legalized sadism.

It serves no function either. Most would admit to anything just to make it stop.

[timtom]

22. Under no circumstances!!!

How torture ever became a point of discussion saddens and enrages me to no end. Why, hell, I don't even believe in torturing BushCheneyRiceRumsfeldAshcroftGonzalesMukaseyFeithWolfowitzPerleetc. (Though, sometimes I feel I should.....)

[treestar]

23. No.

A barbarian, medieval practice that should not be returned to.

It was dropped in Western Civilization, because it was ineffective. It brings out only what the torturer wants to hear. In modern times, it is not only ineffective, but dangerous, providing mostly false leads.

The mind of another human cannot be penetrated. There is no way to force a confession. If one is so certain one is right, then one doesn't need the confession, and must have other evidence.

[seabeyond]

25. no

[varelse]

26. NO

and I don't need any help calling that one, thanks.

[BlooInBloo]

27. What a stupid fucking question.

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28. Depends if it's consensual or not.