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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:03 AM
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If someone made a baseless accusation against John McCain, what is the moral response?
I am talking about an accusation you know to be baseless.

Take as read that McCain would be a bad president and his election would lead directly to more war and bloodshed.

Bryant
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:05 AM
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1. You need to consider: if you need to ask, no one can tell you. nt
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:09 AM
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2. not really sure about the moral answer, but the (lately) likely answer around here would be
"Hey, you (Hillary/Obama - choose one)-hater, your candidate is worse!"
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:12 AM
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3. Moral?
Hahahahahahahahaha

Swiftboating is MORAL?

"I invented the Internet" was MORAL?

Florida2000 was MORAL?

Ohio04 was MORAL?

The defeat of Max Cleland was MORAL?

Impeachment for the Wetting of Royal Weiner was MORAL?

Are you fucking KIDDING?

"Thank you Sir. May I have another?"

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:40 AM
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13. I don't define my morality based on what Republicans do
Do you?

Bryant
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:41 AM
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15. I learn from the past
So it doesn't repeat.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:42 AM
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16. So whatever they do to us, you will do to them? n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:48 AM
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18. Pretty much ... yeah
Not just for the sake of the doing. But if circumstances warrant, why not? I'll be much faster to condemn our side for wussiness than for being too tough.

"The high road leads off the edge of the cliff"
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:20 AM
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23. Republicans have been engaging in various types of voter fraud
With different degrees of success. Do you think we should consider that?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:51 PM
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26. Are you honestly thinking I espouse that or are you just a scab picker?
Or nose picker, as the case may be.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:29 AM
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27. I'm just following your logic through to the end
I mean you seem to be saying that if a Conservative does it, it justifies us doing it, at least when it comes to rhetoric. I just wanted to see how far that goes.

Bryant
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:12 AM
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4. If someone is spreading LIES then call them on it no matter who it is about.
There are many rumors out there about McCain and I suppose many have grains of truth running through them. Not sure how you can say you know beyond a shadow of a doubt what is the truth of the matter. I suggest doing as much research as possible and take nothing for granted or as gospel even if it comes from DU..
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:15 AM
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5. To calmly point out the the accusation is baseless
The fact that McCain will stubbornly refuse to withdraw from Iraq is reason enough to vote against him. We don't need to make up anything.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:16 AM
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6. We can beat McCain with the truth.
No need to act like clowns.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:20 AM
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8. Cute
You wish
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:52 AM
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19. I am not even sure the TRUTH will do it
After all Republicans like and appreciate LIERS.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:18 AM
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7. BASELESS?????
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 10:20 AM by LSK
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:21 AM
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9. Baseless, like implying he's gay.
And that gay is a bad thing. Like a DU member did this AM.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:22 AM
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10. What DU member was that
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:24 AM
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11. the OP specificially said this:
"Take as read that McCain would be a bad president and his election would lead directly to more war and bloodshed."

So why would I take that to mean hes talking about something else?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:30 AM
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12. "I am talking about an accusation you know to be baseless. "
That's what I was responding to. We don't need to go all Rove on McCain. We can beat him with the truth.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:41 AM
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14. I don't have the time or the inclination to look at those youtubes
I am talking about specifically baseless accusations - if something is documented that's a different case.

Bryant
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:47 AM
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17. well if you dont take the time to look at something, it is not documented according to you
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 10:48 AM by LSK
and you would be wrong when you call things baseless. I cannot fathom why willfull ignorance would be a goal on a discussion board such as this one.

Having said that, if you are NOT talking about McCain's potential to expand/prolong wars, then I reserve my previous statements.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:00 AM
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21. No I'm not
Jesus. I am so tired of being accused of some of this stuff. I'm not talking about his potential to prolong wars, in my opinion he is destined to do that.

Bryant
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:53 AM
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20. My response?
I would not like to see it nor would I condone it.

My morality of course is not really in question though I hope...

The wording in your OP is difficult to grasp - I did go to the link and is there a place where a lie is being distributed by the Blogger?

I do not think the comment, "McCain would be a bad president and his election would lead directly to more war and bloodshed." is a lie or distortion of the truth...

Maybe I am over thinking this?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:03 AM
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22. It's a campaign, you attack, doesn't matter if you use baseless attacks
the object is to win. If baseless attacks help achieve that you use them as often as you can. If they don't help you don't use them.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:51 AM
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24. Where's your Obama logo?
You're singing his song!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 11:54 AM
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25. Really I heard that was the Hillary Strategy. n/t
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